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Is Pulev a Top 10 Win for Wlad?
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Originally posted by Simurgh View PostPossibly just inside top 10 after Haye, TT (1st), Byrd, Peter, Povetkin, Chagaev, Mercer, Ibragimov, Brewster..
Wlad's resume does look better and better.
As for Pulev. Guy has some very nice skills (very nice jab) and he is one tough man. He has a very good chin IMO. He rate higher than Chisora actually.
but pulev is the best out there not names povetkin imo. maybe stiverne/wilder/fury are better but we'll only know after they fight.
Originally posted by Elroy1 View PostI think a Haye rematch is the best possible fight for Wlad.
if haye come back, beats 2 guys from the top 10 then yeah, id be interested. there was a time i thought he'd beat pov and fury but im not sure where the shoulder surgery has left him.
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Originally posted by soul_survivor View PostIt's good to see HW boxing getting attention here and Wlad had a good night, obviously some of you here are speaking sense, some are overhyping and some are just hating, so, who thinks Pulev ranks as one of Wlad's top 10 wins? This in terms of Pulev's accomplishments, his overall ability and perceived threat to the champ?
I'll try and list better wins for Wlad:
Byrd
Haye
Povetkin
Peter
Thompson 1
Chambers
Chagaev
possibly ibragimov
.... think I'd find space for Pulev up there then.
I think this win could get bigger if time goes on and Pulev makes a name for himself
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Originally posted by Tedkidlewis View PostLewis had a better resume, Lennox had:
Rudduck
Bruno
Holyfield
Tyson
Tua
McCall
Klitschko
Golota
Rahman
Morrison
Briggs
Mercer
Tucker
IMO he lost to Mercer, it took him twice (each time) to beat Holyfield, Rahman and McCall (which was a very strange rematch), we all know how the Vitali fight ended up..
+ Wlad has 22 more wins and 21 more KOs..
They were always on pair for me. Both H2H and now even resume wise. Two of the very best champions.
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Originally posted by Simurgh View PostNot aiming to turn this in never-ending Klitschkos vs Lennox debate, but we also need to take into account the way Wlad dealt with the opponents and the way Lennox did.
IMO he lost to Mercer, it took him twice (each time) to beat Holyfield, Rahman and McCall (which was a very strange rematch), we all know how the Vitali fight ended up..
+ Wlad has 22 more wins and 21 more KOs..
They were always on pair for me. Both H2H and now even resume wise. Two of the very best champions.
As I said elsewhere..
Haye destroys Grant
Ibragimov bashed Holyfield and Briggs
Chambers outboxes Tua
Chagaev outboxes Golota
Thompson beats up the Tyson Lewis fought
And now add in Povetkin, Pulev, Peter, Byrd etc etc.
It's clear, Wladimir's resume=Lewis' resume in quality.
Especially considering Lewis sometimes struggled and Wladimir always dominates, even in the fights (bar 1) that he lost!
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No
Povetkin is his best win, based soloey of resume
Haye is his best win based solely off skill set
Pulev with 20 fights, very limited boxer, good nevertheless, but limited is not deserving of top 10, unless he goes and does better things and improves his resume
Haye came back and beat the breaks of a motivated Chisora, so Haye is looking like a great win for Wlad.
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Originally posted by Simurgh View PostNot aiming to turn this in never-ending Klitschkos vs Lennox debate, but we also need to take into account the way Wlad dealt with the opponents and the way Lennox did.
IMO he lost to Mercer, it took him twice (each time) to beat Holyfield, Rahman and McCall (which was a very strange rematch), we all know how the Vitali fight ended up..
+ Wlad has 22 more wins and 21 more KOs..
They were always on pair for me. Both H2H and now even resume wise. Two of the very best champions.
Wlad would stand no chance against Lewis, he got stunned by Pulevs jab in round one..Imagine what LL would do with his jab, uppercut and right. lord have mercy.
Stylistically LL is all wrong for Wlad.,,with that said Wlad has perfected the LL style of fighting, minus the inside game.
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Originally posted by yoz View PostDon't expect much.
People (mostly Brits, who were still butthurt over Haye) discredited Povetkin before and after the Klitschko fight, but he's made an impressive comeback.
Pulev is nowhere near as technically gifted as Povetkin. He won't feature again in a HW title bout, IMO. Povetkin, meanwhile, will be back with a ****!
Povetkin more than once showed me that he or better said his conditioning is more that of a four round fighter. If he does enough damage the first few rounds he can get away with it. I still remember him against Huck. I mean he was done after four rounds and should be happy that Huck just couldn't know him out. Huck is a CW and has not really so much boxing ability.
If you look at Pulev though. You see a very smart fighter. A fighter that gets stronger with every round usually. He has a nice way of mixing his right into it. Povetkin though has fought stiffer competition but from what I've seen from Pulev and Povetkin I would take Pulev all day over Povetkin. If it is a four round fight it maybe different
There should be a good chance that these two fight each other in the future - and that should clarify matters on that front :-D
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