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How would Klitschko's career have looked without the use of illegal tactics?

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    #11
    Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic View Post
    Look back at a lot of the major fights in HW boxing, a lot of them do nothing but hold and clinch....bunch of snoozefests.

    Wlad has 2-3 bad fights and black america goes apeshit over them. Unlike Floyd's fights, Wlad at least knocks them out most in most of them.
    2-3? Which of his fights post 2005 were good?

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      #12
      Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
      Once again please stay on topic. This is not a Frazier/Ali thread.

      I enjoy a fighter that actually comes to fight, not to hug/lean/hold whatever. And I'm not "bashing" him. I'm stating facts, as in, he does use illegal tactics extensively. Those are facts.

      Yes, sorry. He's in the sport and entertainment business, I excuse myself for wanting to see a guy smashing someone up or actually put on an entertaining show - which is what pro boxing is all about.

      That's why I don't care much for guys like Wlad, Hopkins, Ward etc. Because they come to stink up the joint.
      I don't like Ward or Floyd either, but never for a second would I disrespect their skills.

      Wladimir doesn't do anything that I could construe illegal, so no, you don't really have a point.

      Sounds like a case of sour g****s.

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        #13
        Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
        2-3? Which of his fights post 2005 were good?
        Tony Thompson fights were some of my favourites.

        No clinching there. Tony was even able to breach Wladimir sometims. Punch speed and punch power won him the fight

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          #14
          Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
          I don't like Ward or Floyd either, but never for a second would I disrespect their skills.

          Wladimir doesn't do anything that I could construe illegal, so no, you don't really have a point.

          Sounds like a case of sour g****s.
          Comparing Floyd to Wlad is like comparing Butterbean to Mike Tyson.

          Well obviously you need to pick up on the old boxing book friend. Excessive clinching is a foul, leaning is a foul, throwing people to ground is a foul, forcing your elbow into the back of your opponent is a foul, pushing is a foul - you would think this is all something that happened over the course of a whole career spread over a multitude of fights.

          But in fact, every single one of these fouls were committed in the first 3 rounds of the Klitschko-Povetkin fight alone.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
            Tony Thompson fights were some of my favourites.

            No clinching there. Tony was even able to breach Wladimir sometims. Punch speed and punch power won him the fight
            Maybe they could get together again and make an epic trilogy.

            Ps. I was live for their second fight. Have you ever been to a Klitschko fight?

            Didn't think so.

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              #16
              Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
              2-3? Which of his fights post 2005 were good?
              A lot of them for me.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic View Post
                Look back at a lot of the major fights in HW boxing, a lot of them do nothing but hold and clinch....bunch of snoozefests.

                Wlad has 2-3 bad fights and black america goes apeshit over them. Unlike Floyd's fights, Wlad at least knocks them out most in most of them.
                Why are you obsessed with black people lol

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic View Post
                  A lot of them for me.
                  Which ones though? Which one would you be able to go through again without at least yawning once?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
                    Why are you obsessed with black people lol
                    Boxing has a lot to do with race/flags.


                    Go to Mexico, they're obsessed with Mexican boxers.

                    Go to the Philippines, they're obsessed with their guys.


                    You see where I'm going?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                      Which ones though? Which one would you be able to go through again without at least yawning once?
                      I could name any fight, you will downplay it. Just know I've called out Wlad for his Baldomir vs Mayweather type fights.

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