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    #31
    Originally posted by Tuavale View Post
    Hopkins has finally succeeded in having many swallow the Kool Aid. But this fight is all wrong for him. He can lose by decision OR ko and will get dominated. He's made a rare critical error in his match making and will pay the price. He must be blinded by Kovalev's complexion. Nard WILL be stopped for the 1st time Nov 8.
    Hopkins is no media creation or fools gold, he is a very real, very skilled fighter and guaranteed ATG. If being able to fight that many top fighters at his age is "Kool Aid", please make sure to pass some of that around to everyone who turns 50. Kovalev may be too young and strong for Hopkins....or Hopkins may have one more bag of tricks but Hopkins has earned his place, win or lose.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
      i'm going with KOvalev, youth and power, but i still believe hopkins can pulled it off, there has to be a reason why a 50 years old fighter accepted to fight the most feared guy in the division, he might see something we don't, or just simple has tremendous amount of self confidence.
      Thats what I'm thinking. Hopkins sees something we don't.

      Kovalev is a bit robotic, but I wonder what Hopkins sees.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Reginald Ledoux View Post
        Thats what I'm thinking. Hopkins sees something we don't.

        Kovalev is a bit robotic, but I wonder what Hopkins sees.
        I think Hopkins sees a guy he would definitely beat a few years ago, and thinks he can still do the same. Nothing more to it.

        Whether he's right or not, we'll see.

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          #34
          Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post

          he got dropped in his last fight cuz the dude stepped on his foot.
          You do realize that stepping on an opponent's foot is a tactic that's been used since before boxing wad acknowledged ad a sport.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Reginald Ledoux View Post
            Thats what I'm thinking. Hopkins sees something we don't.

            Kovalev is a bit robotic, but I wonder what Hopkins sees.
            I dont think he sees anything we dont. Kovalev is a pretty straight forward fighter, he likes to fight at mid range and throw combos. he has balance problems backing up and a relatively static head

            This is bread and butter stuff for Hopkins. The question is whether Hopkins still has it in him to be in their with a genuinely world class fighter. I dont think so, others do

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              #36
              Originally posted by Tom Cruise View Post
              Ive flip flopped a bit about this fight... but i think im going to pick against Hopkins here.

              I know he has looked better than he should for his age against Murat, Shumenov and Cloud, but really how good are those guys?

              Fooking Clevery TKO'd Murat

              Kovalev is good enough and smart enough to not let Hopkins dictate to him in this fight. I see the fight maybe being even enough through 6, with Hopkins smothering SK's work and trying to pot shot from the outside, but after that the pace Kovalev will set will be too fast for a 50yo Hopkins. I expect SK to take over after round six, and once he does that it will depend on how much BH really has left whether he reaches the final bell (I think he will). I dont think Hopkins much loved 'mind games' will work so well against a supremely confident and alpha as **** Kovalev either.

              This is it for Hopkins.... maybe...

              How many times have we said that?
              I think you have the timeline benefit backwards, bro'. I think Kovalev will jump on Hopkins early and try to overwhelm him. It benefits the old man to take Kovalev into deep waters, because he never goes there. Kovalev's trainer, John David Jackson said, "Hopkins is an old man, we're going to treat him like an old man. Knock the mofo out, and let's move on." Hopkins generally starts slow, athough he did start a little faster against Shumenov. It wil be interesting to see how he starts against Kovalev. A fast, ferocious pace early on beats Hopkins; a slow, calculated pace for 12 rounds favors him.

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                #37
                Of course BH will lose this one, but he will do much better than people think he will do. Kovalev will be praising BH after the fight saying he don't fight like a 50 year old.

                BH couldn't beat JC 6 years ago, so he isn't beating Kovalev now. Kovalev might not be special, but he just might be the best person BH has fought for a while, and BH has lost to a lesser fighters.

                But BH gives us oldies inspiration and he wont disgrace himself, just taking the fight in itself was brave of the war horse, something Floyd wouldn't do and hes 14 years younger and supposedly the best.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
                  I think you have the timeline benefit backwards, bro'. I think Kovalev will jump on Hopkins early and try to overwhelm him. It benefits the old man to take Kovalev into deep waters, because he never goes there. Kovalev's trainer, John David Jackson said, "Hopkins is an old man, we're going to treat him like an old man. Knock the mofo out, and let's move on." Hopkins generally starts slow, athough he did start a little faster against Shumenov. It wil be interesting to see how he starts against Kovalev. A fast, ferocious pace beats Hopkins; a slow, calculated pace favors him.
                  Normally thats true, but im picking Kovalev mostly based on the fact that I dont think Hopkins has it in him to carry a consistent pace. 6 years ago Calzaghe set a moderate pace and had him blowing hard and looking for a rest. 6 years later i think that will only have gotten worse.

                  Kovalevs problem is that Hopkins is a great ring general with vast experience. Hes going to feint, smother, hold, pot shot and do anything to make SK think more than he normally would about coming in to B-hop. Against Shumenov he did this so easily it was no problem doing it for 12 rounds. Kovalev does lots of things better than Shumenov, and i think Hopkins will struggle to win rounds after the sixth.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Reginald Ledoux View Post
                    Thats what I'm thinking. Hopkins sees something we don't.

                    Kovalev is a bit robotic, but I wonder what Hopkins sees.
                    B-Hop sees a guy who hasn't been tested mentally, a guy that can potentially be taken out of his element because he hasn't met much resistance so far.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jas View Post
                      k, ill bump this thread after the fight

                      bhop beat the guy who beat dawson

                      styles makes fights

                      bhop has done well against styles similar to kovalev

                      i dont see hopkins losing to a guy with 0 head movement
                      lol you're seriously gonna be on suicide watch after the fight.


                      The only person who's going to be quoted is you lol


                      After Kovalev wins you're just gonna say Hopkins was old lol

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