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    #51
    Morales and Barrera are both greats in my eyes...

    Maybe not top 50 ATGs in history but definitely 2 great fighters and 2 of the absolute best in the last 25 years

    To downplay their accomplishments and being overly critical of their losses is not cool..



    Manny would have never become a household name if he hadn't gotten the stardom rub from fighting those 2...

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      #52
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
      Morales and Barrera are both greats in my eyes...

      Very good not great

      Maybe not top 50 ATGs in history but definitely 2 great fighters and 2 of the absolute best in the last 25 years

      There cant be 2 absolute of the same thing impossible lol

      To downplay their accomplishments and being overly critical of their losses is not cool..

      Im not i said they were very good But not great they are only made to seem like atg's to make pacs wins even more superb and not taking from pac because he finished then like he was supposed to

      Manny would have never become a household name if he hadn't gotten the stardom rub from fighting those 2...
      Well he can thank the old Svengali himself the bobmaster

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        #53
        We are talking morales and barrera but aince you wanna include maidana he slept on morales but your gonna say he didn't also he was a way better fighter skillwise with robert garcia but ur gonna probably say he isnt and say a fighter cant improve but im sure you think pac improved under roach lol and while we are at it didnt floyd come off a 2 year layoff and wipe the floor with marquez who flatlined pacman

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          #54
          Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
          Did you forget Floyd didnt wipe the floor with Maidana, who barely got by a triple shot, fat, one eyed Morales? Floyd needed a rematch in fact.

          We are talking morales and barrera but aince you wanna include maidana he slept on morales but your gonna say he didn't also he was a way better fighter skillwise with robert garcia but ur gonna probably say he isnt and say a fighter cant improve but im sure you think pac improved under roach lol and while we are at it didnt floyd come off a 2 year layoff and wipe the floor with marquez who flatlined pacman
          now eat a d!(k and have a nice day you little prick

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            #55
            Originally posted by Mrsantiago View Post
            Well he can thank the old Svengali himself the bobmaster
            Originally posted by Mrsantiago View Post
            We are talking morales and barrera but aince you wanna include maidana he slept on morales but your gonna say he didn't also he was a way better fighter skillwise with robert garcia but ur gonna probably say he isnt and say a fighter cant improve but im sure you think pac improved under roach lol and while we are at it didnt floyd come off a 2 year layoff and wipe the floor with marquez who flatlined pacman
            Originally posted by Mrsantiago View Post
            now eat a d!(k and have a nice day you little prick


            Not one of your posts seems to be coherent..

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              #56
              Originally posted by Mrsantiago View Post
              now eat a d!(k and have a nice day you little prick
              Thanks moron. Come back soon, I'll school you again

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                #57
                Originally posted by Mrsantiago View Post
                Why do people make these two hbo tv and pacquiao fan hyped mexican guys with huge mexican followings seem like the two greatest fighters ever when in reality they were good but not all time greats look who they lost to in their primes other good fighters such as junior jones barrera not saying they werent good but all time greats no and they lost to pacquiao when they were on the downslide tho morales beat him the first time the last two times were jokes
                barrera, morales and mayweather are undefeated in their 41'st fights. but barrera and morales fought HOF fighters after their 41'st.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  Barrera was thought to be done but he wasn't and he gave Hamed a boxing lesson and an ass whipping. He resurrected his career and even though he wasn't at his peak, that's a great win IMO.

                  Morales lost to Zahir Raheem the fight before. It wasn't even a close fight, Raheem absolutely dominated Morales. IMO he was no longer "el terrible" but "just terrible". Following the Raheem loss Morales went on to finish 2-7. If it were anyone else the win wouldn't be given nearly as much respect.
                  You forgot to mention that Morales fought Raheem at 135. What was Morales's record at 135 before Raheem? Impressive? What weight was Morales in those losses that you mention?

                  Morales had decent fights after that including nearly beating Garcia and Maidana ..... at weight classes that were several above 130

                  Morales did well against Manny in 2 of the 3 fights. Manny was getting better while Morales was not ......

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                    #59
                    Red K sent

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                      #60
                      I was about to write along winded critique of the OP and his opinions on two of the best fighters over the last 20 years...then I decided against it as he is clearly dimwitted

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