Andre Ward is a bad man

[pesticid]

I may not like his style but he's one of the most effective fighters out there. I have been re-watching some of his fights and the one thing that really gets my attention is that he's an aggressive counter-puncher.

He comes at you and gets his offense off in such a way where his head is offline. His guard is tight, his body positioning...the guy is pretty much working on offense while minimizing any counters from his opponent and not by relying on reflexes but by knowing how to position himself.

And it's not even blocking and parrying punches like the way GGG does it, who is also an aggressive counter puncher. He does it mostly through knowing how to put his body and head in the right position. He puts out most of the incoming fire from the get go. Most fighters rely on reflexes and they either slip/duck/step back/block at the last moment and with Ward it almost never goes that far because he puts his body in such a great position that he diminishes the opponent's chances of landing a punch before he's even thrown it.

I am not good at making videos and if somebody knows what I am talking about and dares to make one, it will be great!

I think Andre Ward's style sans the headbutts and the clinching should really be studied in a lot more detail.

Meanwhile, here's a short highlight:

[Build That Wall]

I may not like his style but he's one of the most effective fighters out there. I have been re-watching some of his fights and the one thing that really gets my attention is that he's an aggressive counter-puncher.

He comes at you and gets his offense off in such a way where his head is offline. His guard is tight, his body positioning...the guy is pretty much working on offense while minimizing any counters from his opponent and not by relying on reflexes but by knowing how to position himself.

And it's not even blocking and parrying punches like the way GGG does it, who is also an aggressive counter puncher. He does it mostly through knowing how to put his body and head in the right position. He puts out most of the incoming fire from the get go. Most fighters rely on reflexes and they either slip/duck/step back/block at the last moment and with Ward it almost never goes that far because he puts his body in such a great position that he diminishes the opponent's chances of landing a punch before he's even thrown it.

I am not good at making videos and if somebody knows what I am talking about and dares to make one, it will be great!

I think Andre Ward's style sans the headbutts and the clinching should really be studied in a lot more detail.

Meanwhile, here's a short highlight:

Great highlights vid. Warrrrr S.O.G.!!!!!!!

[MDPopescu]

I think Andre Ward's style sans the headbutts and the clinching should really be studied in a lot more detail.

... But is precisely the exquisite clinching and the persistent "rough housing" that secured him the most significant wins... He who doesn't study that better doesn't doesn't go and fight Ward.

[pesticid]

... But is precisely the exquisite clinching and the persistent "rough housing" that secured him the most significant wins... He who doesn't study that better doesn't doesn't go and fight Ward.

You're talking about the Kessler fight. The Froch and the Dawson fights were really clean.

Now back to the Kessler fight. Kessler used to be my favourite up and comer fighter and I actually picked him to beat Joe Calzaghe and while Kessler is an amazing talent his inside game is just pathetic. He was having success against Joe at first and then Joe decided to fight him on the inside and Kessler had no answers.

Same thing with Andre Ward - Kessler just looks confused and befuddled on the inside. He would've lost anyway it's just unfortunate that Andre did the headbutts, he should've got points deducted.

[Foreign Soil]

Bad man isn't anything close to what I'd describe Ward as. Is he really that unpopular nowadays that you have to use a phony title?

[MDPopescu]

You're talking about the Kessler fight. The Froch and the Dawson fights were really clean.

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I was not addressing the Kessler fight -- as I didn't even mention the famous headbutts...

(B-Hop is cleaner than Ward...)

[pesticid]

Bad man isn't anything close to what I'd describe Ward as. Is he really that unpopular nowadays that you have to use a phony title?

Actually he's a bad man because he went against Carl Froch, Mikkel Kessler and Chad Dawson when they were considered at their best and tore em up at their own game. If that's not bad, I don't know what is.

[pesticid]

I was not addressing the Kessler fight -- as I didn't even mention the famous headbutts...

(B-Hop is cleaner than Ward...)

Well you said that "it's precisely the clinching and the headbutts that secured his best wins" or something along those lines.

Look at the Abe fight, the Froch fight, the Dawson fight and let me know if the clinching and headbutting apply there.

[Oh_Snap]

... But is precisely the exquisite clinching and the persistent "rough housing" that secured him the most significant wins... He who doesn't study that better doesn't doesn't go and fight Ward.

You're right. Before the Froch fight Froch was talking about how he was gonna be really physical and make Ward uncomfortable. I couldn't believe it. It's like these guys have never seem him fight before. Ward can box but he's a very physical rough fighter.

[MDPopescu]

Well you said that "it's precisely the clinching and the headbutts that secured his best wins" or something along those lines.

Look at the Abe fight, the Froch fight, the Dawson fight and let me know if the clinching and headbutting apply there.

Do you have problems with quoting?

At #3 I literally said:

... is precisely the exquisite clinching and the persistent "rough housing" that secured him the most significant wins...

... Nothing about "headbutts"... And that posting isn't even edited!!!