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    Originally posted by Scott-Weiland View Post
    I picked Munroe on the poll because I thought it was a joke of a fight and shouldnt have been madde, the fact he won two rounds before he was knocked out, maybe I was wrong !

    I fancied Chisroa to at least test Fury too, little did anyone know Chisora was gonna put on the worst showing of his career. As far as I am concerned that guy is done, I hold him in about the same esteem as Danny Williams.
    As denium pointed out, it was Fury that made Chisora look bad. No fighter operates in a vacuum. There's always the other man to consider. Unfortunately, because you hold the unshakeable belief that the other man sucks donkey balls, anyone who loses to him automatically has to suck even worse.

    Chisora was a legit test. One of the reasons so many picked Chisora to win (aside from their obvious underrating of Fury's skillset) was that he was coming off an impressive win streak and had had a full training camp to prepare for Fury, as opposed to the last time. It was only after Fury handled him so easily that people started throwing around the 'shot' label. Prior to that, nobody was accusing Chisora of looking shot, because he wasn't.

    Saying that you now hold him in the same esteem as Danny Williams is absolutely ludicrous and shows your depth of disdain for Fury as a fighter. Get a grip and realise that just because someone loses to Fury doesn't automatically mean he's done. Fury dominated Chisora because he was that much better than him, the same way all of Wlad's opponents are made to look like turd despite being, in many cases, fine fighters in their own right.

    Your hatred of Fury really is something else. What on earth will you say about Wlad if Fury actually beats him? Will he automatically go from most dominant champ in history to Roy Jones level glass-jawed joke overnight?

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      Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
      As denium pointed out, it was Fury that made Chisora look bad. No fighter operates in a vacuum. There's always the other man to consider. Unfortunately, because you hold the unshakeable belief that the other man sucks donkey balls, anyone who loses to him automatically has to suck even worse.

      Chisora was a legit test. One of the reasons so many picked Chisora to win (aside from their obvious underrating of Fury's skillset) was that he was coming off an impressive win streak and had had a full training camp to prepare for Fury, as opposed to the last time. It was only after Fury handled him so easily that people started throwing around the 'shot' label. Prior to that, nobody was accusing Chisora of looking shot, because he wasn't.

      Saying that you now hold him in the same esteem as Danny Williams is absolutely ludicrous and shows your depth of disdain for Fury as a fighter. Get a grip and realise that just because someone loses to Fury doesn't automatically mean he's done. Fury dominated Chisora because he was that much better than him, the same way all of Wlad's opponents are made to look like turd despite being, in many cases, fine fighters in their own right.

      Your hatred of Fury really is something else. What on earth will you say about Wlad if Fury actually beats him? Will he automatically go from most dominant champ in history to Roy Jones level glass-jawed joke overnight?
      To answer your question, no.

      In regards to Chisora, I'm obviously wrong about him, I forget he was on that titanic roll after having beaten Gerber, Pala and Scott all without a hint of controversy either....... O wait !

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        Originally posted by Scott-Weiland View Post
        To answer your question, no.

        In regards to Chisora, I'm obviously wrong about him, I forget he was on that titanic roll after having beaten Gerber, Pala and Scott all without a hint of controversy either....... O wait !
        Chisora was on the best streak of his career, exposed Helenius, first man to beat Malik Scott, first man to knock down Johnson.

        Even in the Haye fight, ok he got stopped but he had Haye gasping for air and was giving him as good as he got. Haye got the KO and all credit to him, but Chisora had him worried in that fight.

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          Originally posted by denium View Post
          Chisora was on the best streak of his career, exposed Helenius, first man to beat Malik Scott, first man to knock down Johnson.

          Even in the Haye fight, ok he got stopped but he had Haye gasping for air and was giving him as good as he got. Haye got the KO and all credit to him, but Chisora had him worried in that fight.
          Helenius had reportedly a shoulder issue going in and damaged his knuckles as early as the second round, if memory serves yet still won, Chisora wasn't at all that impressive. As he wasn't versus Vitali either yet it is another popular myth he had another 'impressive loss'. Against Scott I had him down by three rounds, not only was the knockdown illegitimate the stoppage stank worse than any other in recent memory.

          I'm not even sure what to think of his performance versus Haye as he appeared to have forgone any form of condition training prior to the fight. I dont particularly hold any fighter in high regard who turns up in the shape he did versus Haye, he weighed more for Haye than he did Vitali !

          All in all a great win for Fury, considering it is his career best win, which really does not say a great deal. yet you will try and tell me nobody had ever handled him like that before eveh though Haye destroyed him and Vitali schooled him with one arm.
          Last edited by Jewish-Reptile; 08-24-2015, 10:57 AM.

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            Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
            As denium pointed out, it was Fury that made Chisora look bad. No fighter operates in a vacuum. There's always the other man to consider. Unfortunately, because you hold the unshakeable belief that the other man sucks donkey balls, anyone who loses to him automatically has to suck even worse.

            Chisora was a legit test. One of the reasons so many picked Chisora to win (aside from their obvious underrating of Fury's skillset) was that he was coming off an impressive win streak and had had a full training camp to prepare for Fury, as opposed to the last time. It was only after Fury handled him so easily that people started throwing around the 'shot' label. Prior to that, nobody was accusing Chisora of looking shot, because he wasn't.

            Saying that you now hold him in the same esteem as Danny Williams is absolutely ludicrous and shows your depth of disdain for Fury as a fighter. Get a grip and realise that just because someone loses to Fury doesn't automatically mean he's done. Fury dominated Chisora because he was that much better than him, the same way all of Wlad's opponents are made to look like turd despite being, in many cases, fine fighters in their own right.

            Your hatred of Fury really is something else. What on earth will you say about Wlad if Fury actually beats him? Will he automatically go from most dominant champ in history to Roy Jones level glass-jawed joke overnight?

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              "EXPOSED Helenius?"

              Helenius is much more danngerous than bloody Fury imo and could probably waste him right now.

              And L.O.L. at beating up Chisora being the highlight of Fury's career!

              Come on guys, you'se can do a bit better than that!!!

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                Originally posted by Elroy1
                "EXPOSED Helenius?"

                Helenius is much more danngerous than bloody Fury imo and could probably waste him right now.

                And L.O.L. at beating up Chisora being the highlight of Fury's career!

                Come on guys, you'se can do a bit better than that!!!
                Yes, exposed him, Chisora was robbed blind and Robert has achieved nothing since, claiming that he would waste Tyson Fury is laughable.


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                  very nice breakdown article posted by It's Ovah

                  i will say it again, people dont understand furys personally, it sails past some peoples heads, hes being the gyspy HW version of floyd mayweather when he sells fights or talks to the media, he hypes himself and he sells the fight.

                  difference between tyson and floyd is though hes hilarious, for this though he gets hugely biased haters. fool on you if you cant see past this.

                  fury needs to be so tight in the fight or ride them accurate shots from wlad, he cannot allow old man wlad to land a clean power punches. wouldnt surprise me if wlad works on traps for fury or pressure fighting/backing fury up to make fury panic and open his guard up.

                  if fury doesnt get gassed or ko'd its his to win imo. will be very interesting to see how fury deals with a tallish fighter.
                  Last edited by Machinist_X; 08-25-2015, 02:08 AM.

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                    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post


                    I have such a love hate relationship with Dwyer sigh.

                    If Fury wins this it will be a big upset. 9 times out of 10 the surveys are correct, even on the close fights... and most boxing boards are consistant with the same general trends.

                    it will be very interesting to see what the odds are close to fight time on this one.

                    A lot will depend on Fury having a good camp and really believing that he needs to punch Vlad in the mouth to start things off in the right direction. he should take a page from the Corey Sander's strategy manual and attack right away. he has so many more things he can do once he has Vlad guessing and reacting to him.

                    I think he does it.
                    sanders was actually relatively cautious and waited to counterpunch wlad. when he hurt him later in the first round he let it all hang out but he didnt immediately go after wlad guns a blazing. he waited for a good counterpunching opportunity. if fury comes out guns a blazing hes going to get knocked out early like pulev. if he gets on his stick and throws punches in bunches hes got a real shot. hes not a big puncher like sanders tho so hes going to need to wear wlad down imo and then take him out

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                      Originally posted by beez721 View Post
                      sanders was actually relatively cautious and waited to counterpunch wlad. when he hurt him later in the first round he let it all hang out but he didnt immediately go after wlad guns a blazing. he waited for a good counterpunching opportunity. if fury comes out guns a blazing hes going to get knocked out early like pulev. if he gets on his stick and throws punches in bunches hes got a real shot. hes not a big puncher like sanders tho so hes going to need to wear wlad down imo and then take him out
                      No way Fury is going to go in like Pulev and start trading shots with no head movement. Fury will be on his toes, switching stances, establishing his jab. When Wlad grabs hold of him, Fury will be hitting his kidneys, and generally roughing him up.

                      At some point Wladimir will have to go all guns blazing ala Thompson 2 as his usual strategy simply won't work against Fury. Now that's when it will get dangerous for Fury as Wlad punches very hard, and if a haymaker lands then it's probably good night. If Fury sticks to the plan and doesn't get caught, he stops the exhausted Wlad late.

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