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Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

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    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    No he refused random blood testing and then asked for a cutoff.

    Blood testing is more effective than urine or saliva.
    Prove it...............................

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      Something about being an Asian athlete performing at the level he has been has them really upset. I wonder why it upsets them so much?

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        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        Did any of the men rounded up refuse to take a dna test?
        Lmaotime for me to log off

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          If I remember correctly, it was the cut-off date for the OST that killed the first negotiation. Not Pac refusing OST. So where do some of you guys get that Pac refused OST?

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            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            I never said he was automatically guilty. I said refusing is considered the same as a positive.

            I've addressed the proof issue-there will be no proof if the only testing being taken isn't good enough to catch those using.

            I am not making him guilt of anything-manny made himself su****ious by refusing testing. That's what paulie said.

            You just don't want me to mention manny refusing. Sorry, but he did. If he hadn't paulie wouldn't have anything to say.
            These spin doctors are good.

            Now where I come from we call a spade a spade. If refusing to take the test is considered the same as positive by your account, then dammit you saying he is automatically guilty of the crime. Your clearly using that analogy to back up your claim, yet you say, oh I never said that, I said this? Oh I get it, you are ASSUMING he must be guilty because he refused to take the test. What the f**k is it? Say what ya mean, and mean what ya say.

            Dude, the point of the topic is simple. Does anyone have a shred of evidence linking Manny Pacquaio to performance enhancement drugs to date. The answer is no, and any spin you, the Mayweathers, Paulie, the Manny haters, put on it, comes back to no. End of story.

            Apparently, You and Paulie (lol) tried to use the same s**t as proof, clearly used the first negotiation in the Mayweather/Pacquaio fight, as proof to back up your claim, citing Manny's refusal to take an Olympic drug test, thus for that fight negotiation to cease due to Pacquaio's refusal of same.

            When people challenged that notion with some cold hard facts, you backed off everything you said with the quickness.

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              Originally posted by SD180sx View Post
              If I remember correctly, it was the cut-off date for the OST that killed the first negotiation. Not Pac refusing OST. So where do some of you guys get that Pac refused OST?
              When we ran from the fight of the century over his unwillingness to undergo it without set periods of time he couldn't be tested...

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                Originally posted by SD180sx View Post
                If I remember correctly, it was the cut-off date for the OST that killed the first negotiation. Not Pac refusing OST. So where do some of you guys get that Pac refused OST?
                Floboners are the masters of spin and deceit.

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                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  If you won't acknowledge manny refused tests you are not credible.

                  If there was so little difference than why is manny using vada?
                  Sorry but you are not credible because Manny was willing to do extra testing where by a majority of boxers have never done. This included random testing with no cutoff dates for urine/saliva testing and random blood testing with cutoff dates. Only difference was about a week in cutoff dates with Floyd's "new rules".

                  That difference of about a week in cutoff dates for only the blood testing is all that stands between having a fight and not having one. Yet your conclusion is that Manny is su****ious due to that. To me that is laughable.

                  But if we use your theory .......
                  Take all the roadblocks that Floyd has pulled. Are you NOT su****ious that Floyd put all them roadblocks to duck Manny especially after Floyd said "ALL MANNY HAS TO DO IS TAKE THE TEST AND WE HAVE A FIGHT" ???

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                    Originally posted by SD180sx View Post
                    If I remember correctly, it was the cut-off date for the OST that killed the first negotiation. Not Pac refusing OST. So where do some of you guys get that Pac refused OST?
                    Floyd fans like the ones posting here have some kind of amnesia, that is why.

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                      Originally posted by SD180sx View Post
                      If I remember correctly, it was the cut-off date for the OST that killed the first negotiation. Not Pac refusing OST. So where do some of you guys get that Pac refused OST?
                      its ok its ok...its the only thing big dunn is standing on at the moment...

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