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    Originally posted by lutenco View Post
    COTTO vs XYLOCAINE Jr. 2? Tell me in which weight? With which gloves? In Las Vegas where XYLOCAINE Jr. can cheat again or in NY ? Please XYLOCAINE Jr. come from a DRAW with MAIDANA,COTTO comes from a TKO win over SERGIO MARTINEZ!!! AMIR KHAN and MAIDANA are the quality of XYLOCAINE Jr.'s opponents!!!
    You of all seem to forget that Cotto forced Floyd Mayweather in a smaller ring with 10oz gloves - and still got beat convincingly. You can keep trying to convince yourself that you live in another dimension but as long as your ******ed mind still walks on this earth Floyd Mayweather is unbeaten.

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      Originally posted by Main Source View Post
      No point for a rematch against Mayweather. Mayweather will win just as easy again. I mean damn, Mayweather even hurt Cotto with 10oz gloves - something Martinez couldn't even do. Makes Mayweather's performance even greater.
      Lol @ this. Mayweather just went life and death with Maidana... I always favored Mayweather in a rematch but now, I honestly am not sure. Mayweather looked like **** against Maidana and while I think it was a cheap/dirty fight, Mayweather did not put on a good performance. I think he simply underestimated and undertrained, but Cotto gave Floyd his toughest fight by his own admission. This is a better Cotto than the first fight, and it's a worse version of Floyd, this fight needs to happen next because it's a toss up to me right now. (I called favored Floyd vs Cotto and favored Cotto vs Martinez)

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        Does this fight bring the overrated career of Sergio Martinez to a close?

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          Originally posted by Main Source View Post
          You of all seem to forget that Cotto forced Floyd Mayweather in a smaller ring with 10oz gloves - and still got beat convincingly. You can keep trying to convince yourself that you live in another dimension but as long as your ******ed mind still walks on this earth Floyd Mayweather is unbeaten.
          Well no, you are wrong jackass. The fight was in Las Vegas, and every fight in Nevada requires the "standard" 20 foot ring. Secondly, you can listen to the HBO feed again where Emmanuel Steward says that they actually agreed to let Floyd wear 8 oz and Cotto 10 oz, but the NSAC wouldn't allow that. The rule is all fights at JMW and up use 10 oz so that's why it went down that way.



          Now please, just stop posting.

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            Cotto is ageing really well. Didn't expect him to get faster and stronger like this at the end of his career. Truly remarkable. Turns out everybody was wrong all along. Martinez is actually a chinless, soft to the body weakling and Cotto is a direct relative of Jack Dempsey.. Superhuman strength and power.. Like instantly. Overnight.. Again, just remarkable.

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              I love both fighters but I thought Martinez would win by K.O. I even said his reach and "footwork" would make the difference but i stand corrected. Cotto shined once again and surprised me as a fan. Great defence, nice combos, good offence and cutting Sergio off, i was especially at awe when he worked Sergio's legs. He knew how and when to pressure and when to let Sergio run around and tire himself out. His punches were dangerous and every punch was thrown with authority. Sadly Sergio is on his way out and i am grateful for his accomplishments in the ring. I'm glad the best man won tonight and I'm excited about Cotto's future bouts. Bitter sweet evening for me tonight, hope the best for Sergio and if his body really affects him in ring i think he should hang them up. Good night of fighting. La Leyenda De Cotto Continua!

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                Not the knee, try again!

                If anyone thinks Martinez loss because of his knee, then you haven't seen his last three fights and you don't know ..ish about boxing or fighting for that matter.

                The first 2 knock downs had nothing to do with Martinez' knee, Cotto caught Martinez with good shots. The third knock down you could tell Martinez was bothered getting up. However if you were watching Martinez' last 3 or 4 fights you can see his lower body movement was stiff and he rarely bent his knees. Martinez' movement in this fight was not much different. The reality is Martinez had been laid for over 1.5 years, he didn't spar at all in training camp and his timing was off from the first bell. He looked slower then Cotto because Cotto's timing was insane for this fight. Now we are talking about a fighter who even Mayweather said was difficult to time. There is no way you can get timing down with mitt work speed and punching bags and so on.

                Cotto was the better trained fighter tonight, and he was also severely underestimated by Martinez and his corner, for them to really think not sparring was a good decision. I have already watched the fight twice (DVR BABY) and compared Martinez's movement to his fights against Mauray and Jr, and he looks the same. it is a mute point because most times Cotto caught Martinez was when Martinez began to punch not when Martinez was moving. TIMING.

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                  Originally posted by Ravens Fan View Post
                  Does this fight bring the overrated career of Sergio Martinez to a close?
                  Show some respect. Martinez came onto the scene when he was 20 years old, he's accomplished a lot. The fact that someone who came into the game that late and was able to beat Cintron, Williams (in devestating fashion) and Kelly Pavlik is very impressive. Especially with his non textbook fighting style that he seemed to have invented.

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                    Pathetic performance by Martinez. Anybody could have knocked him down multiple times last night, he was THAT bad. Sad that Cotto is now being made out to be one of the ATG with that kind of performance/win. That heavy back is going to get his ass whooped again soon enough.

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                      Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post
                      If anyone thinks Martinez loss because of his knee, then you haven't seen his last three fights and you don't know ..ish about boxing or fighting for that matter.

                      The first 2 knock downs had nothing to do with Martinez' knee, Cotto caught Martinez with good shots. The third knock down you could tell Martinez was bothered getting up. However if you were watching Martinez' last 3 or 4 fights you can see his lower body movement was stiff and he rarely bent his knees. Martinez' movement in this fight was not much different. The reality is Martinez had been laid for over 1.5 years, he didn't spar at all in training camp and his timing was off from the first bell. He looked slower then Cotto because Cotto's timing was insane for this fight. Now we are talking about a fighter who even Mayweather said was difficult to time. There is no way you can get timing down with mitt work speed and punching bags and so on.

                      Cotto was the better trained fighter tonight, and he was also severely underestimated by Martinez and his corner, for them to really think not sparring was a good decision. I have already watched the fight twice (DVR BABY) and compared Martinez's movement to his fights against Mauray and Jr, and he looks the same. it is a mute point because most times Cotto caught Martinez was when Martinez began to punch not when Martinez was moving. TIMING.
                      Another was the way Cotto had Martinez lounging in and missing everything he threw at him. That and the way Cotto was bouncing around the ring with such good stamina was what surprised me with Cotto this time around. His timing was immaculate to the point that Martinez almost didn't make it out of the 1st.

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