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    Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
    Let's make things clear here. PPVs are not made to attract subscribers. They are made to attract PPV buyers. If you're a SHO subscriber, you won't see any of these fights on subscription. You'll still have to pay for them. The investment failed. You can count the number of non PPV fights they have produced with your five fingers since the Mayweather hype.
    Yes, of course. My point is that Showtime wants more subscribers...so they loaded up on Showtime boxing cards in 2013. The main events and co-features, for the most part, were fantastic. They spent a lot of money on those cards in an effort to win subscriptions. Investing in Floyd was the genesis and the basis for all of it. They, mistakenly, assumed if they got Floyd, they would become THE boxing network. It certainly looked like it last year, because they were spending so freely. This year? Not so much.

    The end game was the Floyd PPVs would offset any losses there and get them in the black. The Guerrero PPV flopped, so they did Canelo and recouped (presumably) everything. Now the Maidana PPV didn't do so well, either, and now we've got two more Canelo PPVs this year, Floyd on PPV in September, and probably another PPV or two...these are needed to recoup the money for Floyd's contract and therefore Showtime is less willing to spend big on Showtime boxing cards.

    They are obviously not the same thing but they are also obviously connected.

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      Originally posted by arraamis View Post
      I give you links and you somehow remain ****** ... I guess you're just destined to be a or probably don't have a choice.

      So, what have we learned from your response

      Not only can you not read and or comprehend simple explanations, you also wallow and celebrate your ignorance by posting a rebuttal that goes against expert investors who document their profession.

      Let me break it down for your ****** azz, and you can read-up ... or on second thought, don't bother, disney.com is more your speed.

      Yes, liquidity is calculated daily, but its metric has long-term implications about the health of the company. A company with the ability to only satisfy current obligations has no future. Calculating day to day liquidity allows the charting of a companies financial growth and or demise within the normal 24-hour cycle.

      Again, day to day liquidity is only a gauge to chart the long-term performance of a company from a liability standpoint. Also, Solvency represents the assets in the red, while liquidity is calculated day to day based on ability to pay-off liabilities.


      lol keep posting more garbage and copy-pasting things you don't understand. why don't you go and ask an expert investor you're talking about and mention to him the term you just invented "long-term liquidity"? either he laughs at your ****** face or would get a blank stare wondering what the hell you're talking about.

      you think googling and copy-pasting would save your ****** post?

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        Originally posted by cupcrazy01 View Post
        Yes, of course. My point is that Showtime wants more subscribers...so they loaded up on Showtime boxing cards in 2013.
        You keep mentioning 2013. SHO had barely anything for subscribers last year, while HBO was pumping out non-PPV fights week after week in the last quarter of last year. SHO had no answer for it. You're confusing PPV fights with subscription-based fights. I repeat, PPV fights are not for subscribers.

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          Since these so called advisors, Al Haymon, Michael Konez and the two face Schaffer came into the boxing world, boxing had gone to the gutter. These crooks don't do crab. They're just middle men, negotiators or better yet LEECHES who made their money off the blood and hard work of the fighters and now have become boxing's pimps. So now boxers are getting double screwed.

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            Warren Buffett's Rules of Money Management

            1. Don't lose money.
            2. Don't forget Rule 1.

            SHO are losing millions and have nothing to show for it. They guy the grossly overpaid is posting ******** pictures on twitter and starting riots at Fatburger.

            SHO thought that after Pacquiao vs Mosley did 1.3 million with barely any promotion than they could sign Floyd and it would be the same thing. They were completely wrong.

            Floyd ain't on Pacquiao's level and never will be.

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              Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
              isn't oscar making good money not working with top rank? and of course oscar is taking back his company because he has woken up and realized that the direction that the company is heading in is something he is no longer satisfied with, and schaefer and al haymon aren't cooperating.

              what he wants is to get back to working with top rank in order to produce the best fights and the fights we fans deserve to see. as a result he has us in mind first and foremost.

              nothing funny about this. in fact we should all thank oscar (whether by email, phone or tweeting him).
              Just so you know, and you don't waste your time trying to figure it out. There are people who post here that are going to side with Mayweather no matter what the circumstances. In this case, since Scheafer and Haymon have helped propel floyd to his status today, these people are going to try and make DLH look bad. But if floyd was siding with Oscar, they'd side with Oscar too. They follow every move of floyds. Floyd doesn't like Oscar, they don't like Oscar. So they are going to bash him, even when its clear hes trying to do something good for the sport.

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                Originally posted by brick wall View Post
                lol keep posting more garbage and copy-pasting things you don't understand. why don't you go and ask an expert investor you're talking about and mention to him the term you just invented "long-term liquidity"? either he laughs at your ****** face or would get a blank stare wondering what the hell you're talking about.

                you think googling and copy-pasting would save your ****** post?
                Is that really the best you can do

                You're one of those ignorant fools that when proven wrong go on a "you're copying and pasting" rant to deflect from the real. You don't and can't defeat what is C&P, so you ignore it for the sake of remaining a complete and utter moron. Yeah I C&P a direct link for your ****** azz and now on top of being an idiot, you're also in denial.

                Bottom-line: What good is day to day liquidity, if it doesn't put you in a position to evaluate long-term possibilities. That's where the ratios come into play you freakin moron and how company performance charts are built.

                That's like someone looking to invest in the stock of a company with only a single-day chart to reflect and make a decision on. That's ******!
                No, investors want to see long-term performance based on day to day liquidity charts and performance.

                You, with your moronic replies don't understand that a companies life-cycle isn't determined on only a single day's performance ... It is a collective metric derived from long-term day to day activity and performance charts demonstrating solvency.

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                  Originally posted by lfc19titles View Post
                  if a guy spits on your face and steals your wallet, would you work with him?

                  thats what haymon did to hbo, the guy is a rat, plain and simple. hbo need to keep doing what they are doing, now that golden boy is dropping floyd, haymon and richard on their ass, they will come crawling back, starve them is the way to go

                  people dont understand, all oscar needs to do is take his guys to hbo, then everyone else is finished

                  showtime needs oscar for his fighters, floyd need him for his fighters and licence as does haymon

                  oscar holds all the cards, he needs to remove these viruses from boxing
                  Oddly enough, these guys say Arum did exactly that to floyd, and love to say thats why floyd has the right to not work with him. But now they want Oscar to do what they say floyd shouldn't. Typical.

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                    Dont have stock in company so...

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                      Originally posted by lfc19titles View Post
                      how on earth have you made hbo to be the bad guy in does lol come on man be impartial, you need to stop this whole supporting floyd and his guys *haymon etc) thing

                      they took hbo for a ride and now they need to f off

                      the cold war will never end because it was caused by floyd and his team to avoid a certain someone, that will not change, the guy has turned boxing into wwe with his cherry picking and excuses, the sad part is people lapped it up

                      anyway, bored now adios

                      lol, the Floyd stans even wanted that to happen as well. Its been said on this board many of times. "Boxing needs to be more like wwe. It needs personalities".

                      ****ing idiots. No, it doesn't. It simply needs the best to fight the best week in and week out. But these cornball fans get behind their favorite fighters excuse to not fight. Or take time off. Or make demands.

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