just stop it, there is no way you can argue pac man being #2 p4p

[therealpugilist]

In the past 5 years manny has just beat bradley, beat unranked rios at ww,.got ktfo by an unranked Marquez, lost a robbery to unranked bradley, won a controversial decision over marquez at that point fight 3 was the clearest loss for either marquez won imo, beat.unranked mosley who hadnt won a.fight in years at that point, and beat unranked jmm margarito for a vacant title neither deserved


Pac man is def the 2nd best of his era maybe.third behind hopkins.and money but his wins over barrera andMorales were eons ago cant live.on past laurels forever

He aint did much at ww lately

Ward based off cleaning out his division and how ge performed in.Nov.is the clear number two p4p resume skills and all

Rigondeax is making a push as.well

He is top.ten...not top 2'doe

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Manny is def p4p still, but not top 2... He can be as high as 3 or as low as 6, just depends on how you rate wlad, rigo, etc...

[bojangles1987]

I think Rigo should be #2, but Pacquiao has an obvious case for that spot. Ward should drop IMO, he hasn't done anything of note since beating Froch. Anyone who drops Ward could very easily have Pac take his spot.

[-PBP-]

Him Bradley and Juan have a triangle thing going on. They shouldn't be too far from each other.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Him Bradley and Juan have a triangle thing going on. They shouldn't be too far from each other.

very true,,,, IMO its

floyd
ward
rigo
then jmm, manny, bradley with wlad somewhere in there...


p4p is a very tangled web right now

[Resilient]

And who has Floyd beat?

Drained Canelo, ATG Robert Guerrero, ATG Ortiz, fat Cotto who Manny already destroyed....

Manny is better than Ward period, Bradley and Marquez are better than anyone on Ward's resume in that weak ass division.

Rigo is in a weak division that no one really cares about and has only had 13 pro fights.

[hugh grant]

Pac cant live off past laurels must be the funniest comment ive read for a long time?

Pac has just beat Bradley who many thought was p4p no3 if youd forgotten. Its Floyd living off past laurels. With Floyd fighting Ortiz, Guerrero, CW Canelo, Maidana he is hardly trying to outdo what he has done in the past now is he?

Pac is no1 above Floyd.

[therealpugilist]

And who has Floyd beat?

Drained Canelo, ATG Robert Guerrero, ATG Ortiz, fat Cotto who Manny already destroyed....

Manny is better than Ward period, Bradley and Marquez are better than anyone on Ward's resume in that weak ass division.

Rigo is in a weak division that no one really cares about and has only had 13 pro fights.

Dude canelo.didnt perform like a drained fighter, he was befuddled....losing one pound didnt hurt him, the disparity in skills did

Guerrero aint no atg at least he was ranked and a former title holder off his biggest victor

Maidana was a title holder off his biggest victory

Its not always who you beat.but when you do.counts as well

Ortiz titleholder after biggest victory

Mosley as well

Cotto had regrouped and was not recovering from.a beating like when pac fought him


Do you even remember the last time may fought an unranked guy


In the past few years many fought several and lost

[lfc19titles]

and who the **** has floyd beat?

ortiz? guerrero? lmao **** off dude

a weight drained canelo does not count, he was a zombie

pac is number 1 p4p, he beat the number 3 guy, the best win on the list for any guy in that pound for pound ranking

ortiz, guerrero and chino are c level, just paper champs dude made by golden boy, they would get their asses kicked by bradley

mosley was coming off a near 2 year lay off to fight floyd, when manny fought mosley, the guy only fought a few months ago

this ranked stuff is bs, the 3 mentioned did not deserve to be top 10 p4p, they were not ranked, history will remember floyd as a cherry picker and his resume is terrible dude

if your only argument is that these guys had a belt, then you should leave

just because that scumbag richard says rubbish in the press about his guys being good, does not mean you need to be silly enough to believe it

gur, ortiz and chino will not even go down top 200 atg list, they will not be hall of famers either

adios, sorry for owning you, make a new thread

[Croyd]

In the past 5 years manny has just beat bradley, beat unranked rios at ww,.got ktfo by an unranked Marquez, lost a robbery to unranked bradley, won a controversial decision over marquez at that point fight 3 was the clearest loss for either marquez won imo, beat.unranked mosley who hadnt won a.fight in years at that point, and beat unranked jmm margarito for a vacant title neither deserved


Pac man is def the 2nd best of his era maybe.third behind hopkins.and money but his wins over barrera andMorales were eons ago cant live.on past laurels forever

He aint did much at ww lately

Ward based off cleaning out his division and how ge performed in.Nov.is the clear number two p4p resume skills and all

Rigondeax is making a push as.well

He is top.ten...not top 2'doe

If you count who he has been dodged by, Manny moves up to #1 and the #1 drops about 4 spots.