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    Why Chavez is Brilliant & didnt fall for the extension trick that Bradley fell for.

    I have NEVER been a fan of Chavez but man you guys dont even know the business. He is the ONLY fighter as of late, to not fall for the extension trick. You guys dont realize how he just duped Arum and Im personally SHOCKED he out of all people DIDNT fall for it.

    They use the extension trick to bamboozle big name fighters into never leaving the company. They do this by dangling big fights in front of them, and tricking them into resigning.

    Ghost and Bradley BOTH fell for it, and werent smart enough to know the business side of the game. These promoters wait until you get a big fight, they dangle it in front of you, and make you sign the extension or else they wont give you that fight.

    6 million for GGG with the extension is WAAAY different from 1 fking million without the extension. They lowballed Chavez because their bitter and made up an excuse about how they would lose money if they built him up then let him leave the company.

    He's already built up and the fight itself would have made everyone rich.

    Golden boy tricked Ghost that way. Floyd needed Ghost so Ghost didnt have to sign an extension to get a Floyd fight.(I almost wonder if Floyd was in on it. Remember when he tweeted about fighting Alexander? And remember the negotiations took forever? Its a good chance that he and gbp were in cahoots to get him to resign.)

    He signed the contract to get the Floyd fight but who else was Floyd going to fight? Thats Ghost's fault for not realizing it.

    Bradley did the same thing. Pac needed Bradley more than Bradley needed him. Who is Pac going to fight? Mike Alvarado, Rios, and JMM 6 & 7? Pac is so dry on opponents, that Bradley could have even demanded a high guarantee and STILL not have signed the extension. They would have had no choice but to do what Bradley wanted but Bradley is a moron. He could have fought Pac, then went to GB and fought all the real fighters in the division. Now he will fight bums at TR like Rios and Alvarado trilogies.

    I have NEVER been a Chavez supporter but man look at how this kid just shocked Arum. I have a LOAD of respect for this kid. He just tricked the biggest crook in boxing and you guys dont even realize what type of move he just pulled. Arum NEVER saw this coming.

    He so bitter he trying to give Chavez FIVE MILLION LESS for fighting GGG WITHOUT the extension. The fight itself was going to make so much money for Arum and Chavez. All the talk about building Chavez up was just a BS excuse because the kid was going to actually lose the fight and his stock was going to plummet. Props to Chavez for both WANTING the fight, knowing his worth, and crapping on Arum's parade. And btw, Chavez is a MUCH more bigger name than GGG. GGG hasnt even fought half the competition Chavez has fought.

    #2
    He was afford like 17 mil for 2 fights. Now for about that same time range he will probably make 0 mil and sit for 1.5 years

    Also your numbers and facts are way off, stick to whats actually happening instead of pulling things from your ass

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      #3
      Chavez has drawing power and can make money operating as a free agent. Bradley is one of my favorites but he can't draw flies to **** and needs the machine behind him to get big fights.

      You can't compare the two. Bradley made WAY more money with Arum than he would have with GBP.

      Even better. Bradley is making WAY more money than every single fighter on GBP's roster from 140-147 not named Floyd Mayweather.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
        He was afford like 17 mil for 2 fights. Now for about that same time range he will probably make 0 mil and sit for 1.5 years

        Also your numbers and facts are way off, stick to whats actually happening instead of pulling things from your ass
        He doesnt care about what he was offered WITH the extension. He's not resigning, period. This is identical to Bradley and Ghost. Except Chavez is a bigger name than both.

        Give the kid props I am shocked by it all myself.

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          #5
          Originally posted by PBP View Post
          Chavez has drawing power and can make money operating as a free agent. Bradley is one of my favorites but he can't draw flies to **** and needs the machine behind him to get big fights.

          You can't compare the two. Bradley made WAY more money with Arum than he would have with GBP.

          Even better. Bradley is making WAY more money than every single fighter on GBP's roster from 140-147 not named Floyd Mayweather.
          Actually from what I know, TR didnt give him the money they promised him as Schaefer pointed out. And although Bradley may get paid for one Pac fight, after that he is stuck fighting bums.

          At golden boy he will get paid WAAAY more fighting the real fighters. All the fights combined between 140 and 154 will equate to WAAAY more money than one Pac fight, and a bunch of MEANINGLES record-padders with Rios and Alvarado. Bradley will never be an ATG ww. Look at who he will be fighting.

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            #6
            Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
            Actually from what I know, TR didnt give him the money they promised him as Schaefer pointed out. And although Bradley may get paid for one Pac fight, after that he is stuck fighting bums.

            At golden boy he will get paid WAAAY more fighting the real fighters. All the fights combined between 140 and 154 will equate to WAAAY more money than one Pac fight, and a bunch of MEANINGLES record-padders with Rios and Alvarado. Bradley will never be an ATG ww. Look at who he will be fighting.
            He's already made his money. And Schaefer was referring to when they offered him $8 million for the Pacquiao rematch last year but only $6 million this time.

            And his extension has a contract minimum. And on top of that he's a headliner.

            If he was on GBP he would be buried on undercards with Alexander, Thurman and Porter; hoping and praying for a big fight.

            He's already got 2 Pac paydays and a Marquez payday. Something Broner been trying to get for the last 2 years.

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              #7
              Originally posted by PBP View Post
              He's already made his money. And Schaefer was referring to when they offered him $8 million for the Pacquiao rematch last year but only $6 million this time.

              And his extension has a contract minimum. And on top of that he's a headliner.

              If he was on GBP he would be buried on undercards with Alexander, Thurman and Porter; hoping and praying for a big fight.

              He's already got 2 Pac paydays and a Marquez payday. Something Broner been trying to get for the last 2 years.
              Woopty Doo two fights. Now whats next? He would be at Golden Boy fighting not just Thurman and Porter(who are REAL ww's worth having on his resume) but Khan, Broner, Ortiz, Ghost, Lucas etc. I can go on for days. Bradley will never fight a real ww only rematches with two faded guys, and Rios and Alvarado.

              All these fights at golden boy would not only be a ton of money combine, but credible foes that he wanted to get on his resume.

              How many rematches and trilogies can he fight with Rios, Mike, Pac, and Jmm? And how much money can he make fighting them over and over again? None at all. His whole ww legacy is done. Based off that extension he will never fight a real ww.

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                #8
                Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                Woopty Doo two fights. Now whats next? He would be at Golden Boy fighting not just Thurman and Porter(who are REAL ww's worth having on his resume) but Khan, Broner, Ortiz, Ghost, Lucas etc. I can go on for days. Bradley will never fight a real ww only rematches with two faded guys, and Rios and Alvarado.

                All these fights at golden boy would not only be a ton of money combine, but credible foes that he wanted to get on his resume.

                How many rematches and trilogies can he fight with Rios, Mike, Pac, and Jmm? And how much money can he make fighting them over and over again? None at all. His whole ww legacy is done. Based off that extension he will never fight a real ww.
                OK. Let's play a game. With Top Rank. Bradley's purses have been:

                Casamayor: $1 million
                Pacquiao 1: $5 million
                Provodnikov: $1.8 million
                Marquez: $4.1 million
                Pacquiao 2: $6 million

                In 5 fights he's made $17.9 million and still counting. I'll give you the following list of GBP fighters:

                Broner
                Thurman
                Porter
                Alexander
                Guerrero
                Maidana
                Garcia
                Matthysse

                Let's see how many of them make $17.9 million plus over their next 5 fights. If one of them makes $17.9 million over the course of 5 fights, I will give you all of my points. If they don't, you give me all of yours.

                Deal?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by PBP View Post
                  OK. Let's play a game. With Top Rank. Bradley's purses have been:

                  Casamayor: $1 million
                  Pacquiao 1: $5 million
                  Provodnikov: $1.8 million
                  Marquez: $4.1 million
                  Pacquiao 2: $6 million

                  In 5 fights he's made $17.9 million and still counting. I'll give you the following list of GBP fighters:

                  Broner
                  Thurman
                  Porter
                  Alexander
                  Guerrero
                  Maidana
                  Garcia
                  Matthysse

                  Let's see how many of them make $17.9 million plus over their next 5 fights. If one of them makes $17.9 million over the course of 5 fights, I will give you all of my points. If they don't, you give me all of yours.

                  Deal?
                  Casayomor is a credible foe he should be proud to have on his resume? How does fighting him improve Bradley's resume? A faded JMM? And Prov didnt even DESERVE to fight Bradley. Bradley was on a layoff because TR didnt have any credible foes for him to fight.

                  Prov was suppose to be a cherrypick and he almost LOST to him. He almost LOST to a guy who didnt even deserve to fight him.

                  The sad part about it is Bradley will have endless rematches and trilogies with these bums.

                  And why are you trying to be slick? LOL. Bradley would have gotten paid MORE than ALL of those gb fighters simply because of how important he was to the division. And stop talking about what Bradley MADE at tr.

                  Talk about what he's going to make POST extension. Fighting another JMM fight, Rios, Prov rematch, and Mike.

                  Bradley fighting all of these gb fighters combined will be WAAAY more money than what he's making post extension fighting these bums. But oh wait he has to fight rematches and trilogies at TR. So now lets talk about if he were to fight golden boy's complete roster 3 and four times a piece.

                  At TR its just a waste of time. And why are you so focused on the paydays when we know Bradley dont even care about the money. Why did you ignore everything about how meaningless the fights are at TR? I feel like you intentionally ignored the fact that his ww resume is a SHAM and will continue to be one.

                  He will go down as the most unproven ww in history at this point. Dont reply to me with this slick shiet.

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                    #10
                    Bradley is a bad comparison because he does not really have much of a market value, he knows it too and that's why he sign that extension for less than he was suppose to get in a Pac rematch.

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