Comments Thread For: Arum: Mayweather at Distinct Disadvantage With Pacquiao

[megadeth]

Nyaa.... Offers & demands are designed to be declined. You know that. Lets not go into details cause we are both tired for that. The difference between Floyd & Pac is that, Floyd is his own boss he makes his own fight. Pac is just a fighter, he has a promoter to arrange in everything. WE cannot force Pac to leave Arum just for Floyd.

The first offer was a sweetheart deal for Pac, so why are u lying? The second was a negotiating tactic which Ariza confirms.

Pac is his own boss as well. Arum works for him, not the other way around. Even if u decline that logic, you can't deny that Pacific ha had ample opportunity to become his own boss. He STILL has that opportunity, question is, will he take it & make the biggest fight of all time?

[Bronx2245]

So what you are saying is that YOU as a Floyd fan don't mind when Floyd states that he doesn't want the fight but get upset when Manny's side doesn't agree to the terms ..... got it!

Floyd has come out with too many roadblocks to say he is not the major reason why this fight hasn't happened. Like I said since way back, if Floyd would have stopped with the PEDs testing and then agreed, I would have been fine with that but his roadblocks get crazier and crazier......

Floyd did not make it easy for Manny to agree to his roadblocks.

If Marquez wins this weekend, and then asked Manny for 50/50, and Manny said no, should people say Manny is ducking Marquez? What if Manny asks for PED testing, and Marquez said no, should people say Manny is ducking Marquez? If Marquez said "No random testing." and "I want 50/50," I don't think people would say "Manny is putting too many roadblocks for the fight."

[megas30]

i think he was tired after one round of holding off maidana i think avoiding all those punches tired him and thats why fight went the way it did. He does say to his dad hes tired already after the first round

He said Maidana was tired not himself.

[radioraheem]

Next derogatory term I read from anyone is getting a 2 week ban.

Either grow up and debate like adults or don't come back.

Thank you! It's long overdue. 2 weeks is not enough though.

[InYourFace]

OH you didn't get it.

Marquez counter punches in combination > Floyd counter punches with one shot will never going to beat Pac 8-10 punches combination. Marquez counter punches in combination against Pac because he is not afraid to be hit. Floyd counter punches with one shot because he is not willing to take the risk of being hit in return while in exchange. Imagine Pac throws 8-10 punches combination on Floyd while on the rope. Floyd in turtle shell mode probably too afraid to open up to throw his one punch counter. LMAO.

Floyd counter punching with 1, 2 combinations is the reason why most of his opponents work rate decreases when they fight him, unless you perform like Maidana did by throwing punches everywhere and land a scoring punch every now and then. That's why 2 judges scored the fight 8-4, 9-3 based on clean effective punching and not throwing punches like a girl.

[TOBYLEE1]

Bob simply cannot keep Floyd out of his mouth

[Bronx2245]

So what you are saying is that YOU as a Floyd fan don't mind when Floyd states that he doesn't want the fight but get upset when Manny's side doesn't agree to the terms ..... got it!

Floyd has come out with too many roadblocks to say he is not the major reason why this fight hasn't happened. Like I said since way back, if Floyd would have stopped with the PEDs testing and then agreed, I would have been fine with that but his roadblocks get crazier and crazier......

Floyd did not make it easy for Manny to agree to his roadblocks.

A key word you're missing from your opening statement is "NOW." I said I don't mind if Floyd doesn't want the fight "NOW" Why? Because as the article YOU posted said, he offered him the fight twice and MANNY turned it down, NOT FLOYD.

[kingfaze19]

But i thought he boycott the fight doe

[assiong]

Mannys not a come forward brawler that's going to come straight to Floyd. True Manny has hand speed but he was faster than Marquez all four times that they fought. And he could never beat him convincingly. And that's with Marquez fighting mostly on his back foot. I can see Floyd standing his ground and even backing a Manny up at times. Plus I don't see Manny walking in the ring at 165 either. Mannys great and can still beat a lot of fighters I just don't think stylistically he matches up well at all.

See this is when I know you just blowing smoke up in your butt. The difference between the two are;
1) Marquez is willing to trade shots, Floyd covers up when opponent throws multiple shots.
2) while Marquez is a counter puncher like I stated on no. 1, he is willing to go toe toe just to land his shot, whereas Floyd will counter you and wait until you make a mistake by over committing to your punch, or he will time you when you are about to throw your punch.
3) Marquez doesn't clinch when cornered, Floyd does. Instead of clinching Marquez punches his way out of trouble while Floyd will clinch and pivot away without throwing punches.

So, you see the difference between the two counter punchers? That's why i said it long time ago that Floyd doesn't want to tangle with Manny is because of the way Manny attacks his opponents especially if their back is against the ropes. At this time of Manny's career, idk if he still be able to smother his opponents with blistering hand speed and high volume of punches. He is not a monster puncher that the Mayweather clan wants you to believe (hence the steroid or HGH accusation) it's the accumulation of his punches that he put his opponents into submission. That is the MAIN REASON why Mayweather clan worried about. IDK now if they still have those concerns after seeing Manny's decline.

[WESS]

A key word you're missing from your opening statement is "NOW." I said I don't mind if Floyd doesn't want the fight "NOW" Why? Because as the article YOU posted said, he offered him the fight twice and MANNY turned it down, NOT FLOYD.

No point in wasting your time. You can prove him wrong a hundred times and he still comes back trolling....

It's why I tell that boy to not speak unless spoken to.