Comments Thread For: De La Hoya Slams Mayweather: He Should Be 43-3!

[MrP4P]

Well, whose fault was that? Floyd wanted to fight Oscar years before Oscar FINALLY accepted his challenge.

Tito was the only one to fight DLH in his prime. Arum didnt let Mayweather and Oscar fight, they had to wait till they were both free agents, Mayweather fought an old DLH and Pacquiao fought an ancient welterweight DLH.

[MrP4P]

What's about the Judah fight when his dad when in the ring , that a DQ win for Judah

That night might have been a blur for you, I mean it was his uncle Roger afterall and he was punished for it. The ref made a judgement call since Mayweather(who was intentionally fouled) stayed calmly at the corner while Judah tried fighting Roger.

[RubenSonny]

East LA's answer to RuPaul eating that nosecandy like its going out of stock.

[sterilizer]

I saw your post as being credible and honest until you made assumptions that Pacquiao and Marquez would beat him. Marquez had said (many times) that no rematch was needed with Floyd because it was just a bad style matchup for him and it wouldnt matter what weight class it was, so it seems you have more faith in Marquez than he has in himself.

OK I stand corrected if Marquez has such a loser mentality and actually publicly stated that he wouldn't be able to beat Floyd no matter the weight class. That would explain why he never sought for another shot at Floyd.

Yet, about Pacquiao, I am being 100% honest in my belief that the Pacquiao that beat Barrera and Morales in such a decisive fashion, and even the one who beat Cotto years later, would have beaten Floyd clearly and unquestionably. That's just my opinion and I'm sure lots of other boxing fans feel the same way. Floyd has never faced anybody even close as fast, tireless, aggressive and heavy-handed as Manny was in those years.

So, assuming that even fighting at lightweight Marquez would have lost, then Floyd's record should be 45-2-1 today, if he had fought Manny at his best, and justice had been done in Castillo 1 and Maidana's fights.

[hitking]

As I said, I am not mad at the outcome just at the ludicrous scoring taking place amongst fans here. 117-111 is a flat out disgrace, flatly put. I would love for anyone here to explain to me how you can score any 8 or 9 rounds for Floyd. I didn't bet on either man, didn't care who won. Am not mad at the outcome but seriously can't fathom how in the hell anyone can score 8 or even 9 rounds in that type of fight for either man. Saying Maidana only won 3 or 4 rounds is flat out hypocrisy. Considering he was the ring general in this fight counts plenty. He took an amazing boxers best abilities away from him, that counts for a lot and also all these people refusing to score the body punches that did land.

Tedy Atlas scored the fight 117-112 and said on Sportscenter that the judge that had it even should be investigated. Explain to me what agenda Atlas has for his disgraceful score. I never watch postfight interviews. But I've read Brian Kenny didn't think it was a close fight either. With he and Floyd's history, what's his agenda for a disgraceful scorecard? Y'all on here b1tchin' and moanin' cause y'all hate Floyd. Maidana fought a spirited fight and never allowed Floyd to get comfortable in there. But as far as doing things that actually win boxing matches. He pretty much didn't do ****.

[cabalas]

The Castillo fight could have gone either way

Oscar fight was close and difficult to score with either doing very much, but floyd did enough to win, no robbery

Maidan a fight was a clear win for Floyd..

Well Castillo fight is not only somebody interpretation. I argee Compubox is far from being precise but the following numbers seem to be overwhelming (especially the power punches in a ratio close to 3 to 1 in favor of Castillo)

Jabs Castillo Mayweather
Landed 30 91
Thrown 129 297
Percent 23% 31%
Power Punches Castillo Mayweather
Landed 173 66
Thrown 377 151
Percent 46% 44%
Total Punches Castillo Mayweather
Landed 203 157
Thrown 506 448
Percent 40% 35%

Referee Vic Drakulich took a point away from Castillo for hitting on the break in the eighth round. In the tenth round, Drakulich deducted a point from Mayweather for using his elbows.
The crowd booed the decision.
HBO unofficial scorer Harold Lederman had Castillo winning 115-111....

And of course Floyd won in the rematch; however the second fight can't hide the fact that Floyd lost in the first bout.

[SaldanaCC]

NOBODY and i mean NOBODY hates on floyd as hard or as much as de la hoya .....he always has the answers and claims this guy and that guy will beat floyd for sure an it never happens floyd win clearly last night was it a good close fight of course floyd says so himself but if u think dana won u didnt watch the fight or u just hate floyd period an if thats the case floyd looses everytime but anybody who takes this drag queen junkie fresh outta rehab AGAIN seriouse or feels his opiniom on boxing matters especially his opinion about floyd stop watchin boxing!

[hitking]

There was nothing clean and effective about that fight bruh..nothing at all beyond the jabs..that's where it ends. Neither man got clean clean shots off all night, they may have connected but certainly not the way they intended and certainly not the way they are each used to. Effective aggression goes to maidana tho, he took Floyds best tools from him that's why I scored it by one round in favor of Floyd but could've lived with a draw.

If you didn't see Floyd landing clean punches the conversation might as well end here. Cause you're clearly talking outta your ass or didn't watch the fight.

[Intelligent]

God forbid someone doesn't worship at the temple of mayweather..god forbid. Sorry Oscar but you ain't entitled to your opinion..you who boxed, won a gold medal, countless belts in varying divisions, and are a legend in the sport..sorry you ain't got the right. You don't know shhh about boxing according to the people on here.

I disagree with the three loses but he's entitled to his opinion afterall he's got more experience at this and how fights are scored than any of us.

Shut your punk ass up! When Oscar and other greats say Floyd beat Pac, like Marquez, Mosley, Hatton etc... you don't say shyt about them being right and fighting. You was the same pussie complaining about this fight!

I asked your bytch ass why the phuck watch something you think is a mismatch? And I said watch you be here after the fight especially if Maidana did good! If you feel a certain way about it do something? If you are feeling froggy leap them homie... Hit me up

[MrP4P]

OK I stand corrected if Marquez has such a loser mentality and actually publicly stated that he wouldn't be able to beat Floyd no matter the weight class. That would explain why he never sought for another shot at Floyd.

Yet, about Pacquiao, I am being 100% honest in my belief that the Pacquiao that beat Barrera and Morales in such a decisive fashion, and even the one who beat Cotto years later, would have beaten Floyd clearly and unquestionably. That's just my opinion and I'm sure lots of other boxing fans feel the same way. Floyd has never faced anybody even close as fast, tireless, aggressive and heavy-handed as Manny was in those years.

So, assuming that even fighting at lightweight Mrquez would have lost, then Floyd's record should be 45-2-1 today, if he had fought Manny at his best, and justice had been done in Castillo 1 and Maidana's fights.

Thats fair and I agree Floyd never faced a beast like Pacquiao, but i would have loved to see him take a crack. I also dont think pacquaio fought anyone like Floyd before, someone who can rival him speed even though Pacquiao is faster. I think Pacquiao is pretty predictable and the same qualites in Marquez that give Pacquiao trouble, Floyd presents those on a higher level. He would be tall, long, bigger, reach advantage and I believe he would limit Pacquiaos work rate, I dont think Pacquiao would go balls to wall against Mayweather and thats because of the respect he would have for him. Maidana had NO respect for floyd and Floyds toughest fights are against people who can bully him.. Castillio, Cotto, Maidana.. Pacquiao wouldnt have that advantage over Mayweather, I think it would have been a high speed chest match with a knockdown for Pacquiao and Mayweather coming on strong in the end.