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    Rewatched: Danny Garcia v Lucas Matthysse

    So, I've done a few of these in the past, where I rewatch and re-score some of the most important and/or best fights of recent times and there is no other fight on NSB which has divided opinion over the last year or so as much as this one. Which is why I've rewatched it, re-scored it and have put together the most in depth piece yet. Comment and let's keep this civil folks.

    The Set Up
    Danny Garcia was the Ring and WBC/WBA champion heading into the fight, having knocked out Amir Khan for the privilege of being named numero uno. Lucas Matthysse was the baddest challenger of them all, a string of knock out victories, the highlight of which was a destruction of the experiences and intelligent Lamont Peterson. The fight was set up perfectly, some said Garcia would not want the fight but he signed the contract and the only fight that truly mattered on a card known as "The One" took place in front of a capacity crowd.

    Scorecard
    Round 1: 10-10, an even round with both guys feeling it out, not really willing to engage apart from a few wide shots that didn't cause any damage to either man.

    Round 2: 10-9 Matthysse, looking strong and quick with a good solid jab, controlled the ring, I think that's what's known as ring generalship.

    Round 3: 10-9 Matthysse, has the higher work rate and really pushed Garcia, but the champion put in some good work of his own, with brilliant counter punches.

    Round 4: 10-9 Garcia, a clear round for the champion, great combinations where as Matthysse was throwing single shots and missing/getting blocked.

    Round 5: 10-9 Matthysse, best round of the fight thus far, with the challenger edging it on work rate and consistent jabs. There is a clash of heads but it's to Matthysse's left side, thank fully no damage.

    Round 6: 10-9 Garcia, finally manages to break the pattern of Matthysse's attacks, makes him look reckless with some sublime counters, with added body work that will pay dividends later in the fight. However, there are some close exchanges with heads going in from both side, Matthysse jumping in with his wild left hooks isn't helping.

    Round 7: 10-9 Garcia, now the champion is in full swing, managing to control the pace of the fight and the distance at which it is fought.

    round 8: 10-9 Garcia, simply put, another easy round to score for Garcia, the eye that Matthysse damaged by standing and waiting for left hooks is starting to bother him a lot.

    Round 9: 10-9 Garcia, wow, what a definitive round for Garcia, he has to take a couple good shots but his combinations of left hooks and looping right hands just can't miss. Matthysse looks lost.

    Round 10: 10-9 Garcia, very very close round, just tilted in Garcia's favour because of his cleaner, more effective punching.

    Round 11: 9-8 Garcia, weird scoring I know but Garcia knocks down Matthysse, first time in his career but Matthysse does enough in the round to get some sort of credit. He lands huge, powerful right hands, how Garcia takes those shots I have no idea.

    Round 12: 10-8 Matthysse, Garcia gets a point taken off him rightfully so and the challenger chases him all night, landing some hard leather on him. Garcia ends the round beckoning Matthysse on and the two stand and trade, fitting end to a very good fight.

    114-112 Danny Garcia, still Light-Welterweight Champion of the World

    What happened next?
    Well some screamed robbery, others claimed that Matthysse's eye closing was a major factor, which it was but this is boxing, if one guy lands clean, effective punches and damages his opponent...well that's the name of the game. Garcia's wins a hard fought but in the end, relatively drama free decision. AT no point did he look hurt and he took the best punches from the biggest puncher in the division. Controlling the middle rounds were his key to victory.

    -Danny Garcia proved he is the best in his division and one of the best counter punchers on the planet, with added power. He managed to slow Matthysse down and discourage him from throwing more than 1 or 2 shots at a time in the middle rounds. Not as talented as other top level fighters but well schooled, iron chinned and already, at only 25, has the tricks of a veteran.

    -Lucas Matthysse he showed what I thought a long time ago, definitely a hard puncher but a cultured beast at best. What does that mean? Well, when things aren't going his way, he rarely goes for a hail Mary and continues to box, which is what let him down against a superior technician. Also, a tad one dimensional when it comes to what he does, jab, jab, right hand, left hook, easy to prepare for. But hand it to him, he has heart and can finish a fight well, Garcia felt it in the 11th and 12th rounds.

    That's how I saw it, how'd yall see it?

    #2
    Who cried robbery? A lot of crying about the eye and the low blows, but robbery?

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      #3
      i can never score rounds even, i never seen it happen. even if it seems dead close i always can come up with a reason why a guy edged it.

      good scorecard still tho

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        #4
        Round 11 can not be 9-8. 10 point must system

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          #5
          Nobody screamed robbery,and you can't have a 9-8 round

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            #6
            Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
            Round 11 can not be 9-8. 10 point must system
            I know but just recently in a major fight I saw a 9-9 score, which I agreed with in that fight, can't quite remember who it was. Anyway, I took my cue from that.

            Could have given it 10-9 Garcia and not added in the point that he would get for a KD but it didn't seem right awarding Garcia 10, considering Matthyse won that round. I couldn't give it 10-9 Matthysse cos of the KD, so I came to this.

            Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
            Who cried robbery? A lot of crying about the eye and the low blows, but robbery?
            You didn't read NSB the day after?

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              #7
              Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
              I know but just recently in a major fight I saw a 9-9 score, which I agreed with in that fight, can't quite remember who it was. Anyway, I took my cue from that.

              Could have given it 10-9 Garcia and not added in the point that he would get for a KD but it didn't seem right awarding Garcia 10, considering Matthyse won that round. I couldn't give it 10-9 Matthysse cos of the KD, so I came to this.



              You didn't read NSB the day after?
              Not like I care enough to burn it in my memory, but I don't remember robbery. I remember a lot of crying about the eyes and the low blows, like there still is now. I don't remember people thinking Lucas should have got the decision, no substantial number anyway. Lucas actually got a surprisingly fair treatment from the judges, their scorecards were spot on.

              This was a good fight. The fact it turned out more a boxing match and no one got KOed disappointed people, but I still thought it was a tough, well fought fight. 7-5 or 8-4 Garcia sounds like the right score.

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                #8
                Look at when the eye injury took place and then look at your scorecard for every round before the eye injury, and every round after the eye injury.

                I rest my case. The eye changed the fight.

                And Garcia won the fight out right. Nothing dodgy about the decision.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                  I know but just recently in a major fight I saw a 9-9 score, which I agreed with in that fight, can't quite remember who it was. Anyway, I took my cue from that.

                  Could have given it 10-9 Garcia and not added in the point that he would get for a KD but it didn't seem right awarding Garcia 10, considering Matthyse won that round. I couldn't give it 10-9 Matthysse cos of the KD, so I came to this.

                  You cant score a round without a 10 unless there was a point taken away by the ref.

                  How did lucas win that round when he got KD? The KD is not completely separate of the round, thats 10-8 for Garcia. All though a punch behind the head shouldnt have been a KD but thats another story for another thread

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                    #10
                    Only rounds that matter were 1-6 prior to the eye injury. Like most people OP, you had Matthysse up (and LM took round 6 hence the bollocking from Angel).

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