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    #271
    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    Fixed it for you!
    It's not damage control when people were just stating facts during years, saying that Arum and Pac NEVER wanted that fight. Now Roach just confirmed it.

    Damage control is when, even with facts, you try to spin reality according to your agenda

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      #272
      Originally posted by Body Movin' View Post
      so they purposefully killed the first negotiation and sued floyd instead but were "highly offended" when he offered 40 million because they still expect 50/50? haha
      that sums it up lol

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        #273
        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        The point is that Manny didn't go do what Floyd did and use it as a roadblock.

        Secondly, even those numbers above show that they both deserved a good portion of the PPV money not the 0 that Floyd wanted to give Manny.

        Manny has been the A side too but I know it's hard to convince Floyd fans. Manny has been a big part of boxing for a while now and deserved respect from Floyd not the 0 PPV money that was offered.

        Floyd said back in 2010 and again recently "I'm not interested in a Manny fight"If you believe Roach then AGAIN, I hope you believe your hero Floyd
        manny had his chance at 50/50 and blew it because he didn't want to do random drug testing.

        he had his 50/50 opportunity but ran away from it.

        now he won't be seeing a 40 million offer from floyd anytime soon.

        next up pac vs alvardo I lmao

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          #274
          Originally posted by Body Movin' View Post
          so they purposefully killed the first negotiation and sued floyd instead but were "highly offended" when he offered 40 million because they still expect 50/50? haha
          Pretty much this.

          Party A agreed to all the demands of Party B (50-50 share, weight penalty, etc...) and asked for a blood test to ensure a fair fight.

          Party B declined the blood test, gave 1043 excuses on how the blood test was impossible, sued party A, gave an ultimatum to party A.

          After this, Party A doesnt give a f uck about Party B. Party B cherrypicks a lightweight and get put to sleep by a cherrypick that turned terribly wrong.

          After years, the coach from Party B acknowledged that his party never wanted a fight against Party A. Maybe only as a last fight, to cash out, while doing in-house fights against parties promoted by the same old robber.

          Even with all this, according to *******s expert, Party A is the duck, the coward, etc...

          Welcome to boxingscene

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            #275
            Originally posted by Jcsuper View Post
            It's not damage control when people were just stating facts during years, saying that Arum and Pac NEVER wanted that fight. Now Roach just confirmed it.

            Damage control is when, even with facts, you try to spin reality according to your agenda
            Is that what you Floyd fans think Roach said? WOW!

            Roach is just saying that they should have just agreed to the PEDs test so that the fight would be on ..... Roach is NOT saying that Manny was scared or ducking! Manny wanted the fight from DAY 1! He even agreed to extra testing but didn't agree to Floyd's cutoff just like Floyd didn't agree to Manny's cutoff. It's not like Floyd's was the gold standard.

            Floyd: On the other hand, Floyd has placed roadblocks after roadblocks since DAY 1. Roach even said that Floyd doesn't want to risk that precious "0"

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              #276
              Originally posted by Brandish View Post
              manny had his chance at 50/50 and blew it because he didn't want to do random drug testing.

              he had his 50/50 opportunity but ran away from it.

              now he won't be seeing a 40 million offer from floyd anytime soon.

              next up pac vs alvardo I lmao
              The first part is what Roach is saying. Manny should have just taken it because after that Floyd continued with worse roadblocks ..... that was the best deal for Manny out of all of them.

              but to say what you say ..... you are like many of the Floyd fans AND FLOYD...... you guys discuss like you never wanted to see this in the first place!

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                #277
                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Is that what you Floyd fans think Roach said? WOW!

                Roach is just saying that they should have just agreed to the PEDs test so that the fight would be on ..... Roach is NOT saying that Manny was scared or ducking! Manny wanted the fight from DAY 1! He even agreed to extra testing but didn't agree to Floyd's cutoff just like Floyd didn't agree to Manny's cutoff. It's not like Floyd's was the gold standard.

                Floyd: On the other hand, Floyd has placed roadblocks after roadblocks since DAY 1. Roach even said that Floyd doesn't want to risk that precious "0"
                "Manny wanted the fight from DAY 1!"


                Ahahahahha, come on son. When you want a fight, you decline the offer, sue the other party, give him an ultimatum, say after all your fight "hmmm yess ask to my promooterr hmmm" and sign a fight against a guy you already beat ? ahahah yeah sure

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                  #278
                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  The first part is what Roach is saying. Manny should have just taken it because after that Floyd continued with worse roadblocks ..... that was the best deal for Manny out of all of them.

                  but to say what you say ..... you are like many of the Floyd fans AND FLOYD...... you guys discuss like you never wanted to see this in the first place!
                  No he clearly says it was their fault not all that **** you wrote.

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                    #279
                    Originally posted by Jcsuper View Post
                    Ahahahahha, come on son. When you want a fight, you decline the offer, sue the other party, give him an ultimatum, say after all your fight "hmmm yess ask to my promooterr hmmm" and sign a fight against a guy you already beat ? ahahah yeah sure
                    Sue the other party because they were accusing Pac of taking steroids, then it gets out that Floyd has failed drug tests for his last 3 fights (at the time), case suddenly dropped from Floyd.


                    This topic is so ****ing old. They're both to blame.

                    End. of. ****ing. story.

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                      #280
                      Originally posted by PlasterWraps View Post
                      Sue the other party because they were accusing Pac of taking steroids, then it gets out that Floyd has failed drug tests for his last 3 fights (at the time), case suddenly dropped from Floyd.


                      This topic is so ****ing old. They're both to blame.

                      End. of. ****ing. story.
                      Once again damage control. If you want to get the biggest fight in history and youre clean do you ?
                      A - Take the damn test, prove youre clean, get the fight, win and humiliate the other party
                      B - Sue the other Party and refuse to fight

                      And for the drugs tests, no official charges were dropped, only speculations, only damage control

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