Roach admits it was pacquiao's fault the mayweather fight never happened...

[MPX309]

Yeah I don't think he's contributed anything to this place once besides useless namecalling.

Anyways, both guys are too blame especially the Top Rank side. There was no need for lawsuits.

hahaha agreed, dude didn't respond to any threads unless it was to insult people via Mayweather

[Triumph 916]

You got it wrong, was talking about their own fights where they got their knowledege about negotiations, you ****ers got the habit of jumping into **** before you fully understand it

First off...times are a lot different! Bigger money involved so things are different. Negotiations between Pac vs Rios or Clotty or guys like that are a lot different than negotiations with Mayweather...that's why new stadiums were supposed to be built lol. Just because they were fighters doesn't mean they know all the facts! You agree that they know enough, so I take it you agree with all the fighters that think Floyd is the best, right? Or does that not fit your agenda!?

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

That video is just embarrassing.

lmaoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

They could have accepted the drug testing but I'm not buying that the fight would have even happened anyway. For years and years all we heard from the Mayweather camp was "If you da best, take da test". Then when Pacquiao agreed, it was no PPV or something else or something else.

I don't blame them for turning down the drug testing either out of principle. Mayweather's team went on pretty shameful smear campaign of Pacquaio before they entered into negotiations, sullying his whole career based on allegations with no proof. Why would he then bend to their demands which, at the time, were pretty unheard of in boxing. Why did Mayweather not ask for drug testing in his first fight back with Marquez?

The drug testing is bull**** anyway because it's not year round, it's a publicity stunt. This whole potential fight is hot air which was used to build up both fighters separately.

[L3TH4L]

Pacquiao was the A-side in the first negotiation, you think he's going to bend to Mayweather's will after all the PED accusations they were throwing at him? When all was said and done Pacquiao agreed to all of Mayweather's demands and the fight still didn't happen.

[[T][B][E]]

I do believe Arum is a liar, and any offer Floyd made he would have turned it down anyways.

Remember this offer?
x Arum after JMM 3 "we want Floyd".
x Arum next day "Floyd going Prison".
x Criminal Court Grants Floyd May3rd date.
x Floyd tweets Manny, and Calls him.
x Arum "Manny wont be ready till July".

I only blame ARUM and now Freddy says Arum wanted it to be LAST fight proves it.

[IMDAZED]

I notice that only HERE is where you can bring facts, lay it right in front of people, bring countless witnesses who can attest to said facts.....AND STILL BE CALLED A LIAR OR HAVE THOSE FACTS DISREGARDED FOR THE SAKE OF THEIR LOVE FOR A BOXER NOT THE SPORT!!

Welcome to the site. Please remember that when facts are presented that ruin someone's opinion, a new opinion/imaginary scenario must be created to replace those facts.

[V.WEBB]

They could have accepted the drug testing but I'm not buying that the fight would have even happened anyway. For years and years all we heard from the Mayweather camp was "If you da best, take da test". Then when Pacquiao agreed, it was no PPV or something else or something else.

I'm headed to lunch, but I'll respond. The drug testing impasse was literally the only thing holding up the fight in 2009. SO much so that it went to a mediation to get it solved. I mean, Manny wanted a full 30 days with zero testing and Mayweather wanted 14 when they should have never been a cut off any way. Manny balked and walked and signed the Clottey fight days later.

I don't blame them for turning down the drug testing either out of principle. Mayweather's team went on pretty shameful smear campaign of Pacquaio before they entered into negotiations, sullying his whole career based on allegations with no proof. Why would he then bend to their demands which, at the time, were pretty unheard of in boxing. Why did Mayweather not ask for drug testing in his first fight back with Marquez?

Of course you don't blame them. But if they were so hurt or upset about the accusations, why even sit and negotiate a fight? Make zero sense also when you add in the fact that Manny and his team had no issues of proving that he was clean....then....back tracked.

The drug testing is bull**** anyway because it's not year round, it's a publicity stunt. This whole potential fight is hot air which was used to build up both fighters separately.

Well, they were going to fight in about a 3-4 month span, so initially, it definitely would not have been year around.

[El Malo.]

Does it even matter whos to blame here. This two vaginas pretty much spat on all boxing fans by not making the biggest fight of our time. On top of that they go around cherry picking opponents and using each others name to promote fights to maximize their own pockets. At least Marquez did us a favor by blasting Manny to the moon. The biggest joke of all this is both this fck face fan base arguing mooth points and making excuses for their fighters instead of demanding them to make the fight happen. I guess both fan base are happy arguing the same side of the coin

[IMDAZED]

Pacquiao was the A-side in the first negotiation, you think he's going to bend to Mayweather's will after all the PED accusations they were throwing at him? When all was said and done Pacquiao agreed to all of Mayweather's demands and the fight still didn't happen.