Comments Thread For: R. Mayweather: Pac Won't Fight To Save His F***ing Life!

[ModernTalking]

The reason I have always said Floyd beats Pacquiao is because he is the superior of the two, case closed. Marquez gave Manny opportunities to score them knock downs by taking risks which is something Mayweather won't do unless he has the absolute upper hand in the situation. Manny doesn't know how to engage a fight and that's why he ran into, got timed and put to sleep by Marquez's counter right which is Floyd's money punch. I know people like to believe Manny is Floyd's toughest fight but I have never seen it. Stylistically Floyd is a nightmare for Manny and this thing about south paws and Floyd is ludicrous because the only south paw who did anything against Floyd was Zab but only for 4 rds.

Castillo gave Floyd his toughest fight and he is a righty but Floyd clearly beat him in the rematch. In order to beat Mayweather you have to out think or at least be able to think on paar with him and adjust. Manny could not even adjust to Marquez after 4 fights, 3 weight classes and 12 years. Manny even admitted he underestimated Marquez going into the 3rd fight because he was beating up on bigger guys and Marquez was the smaller man. Totally underestimated the toughest opponent of his life only to get KO'd in the 4th fight and I'm supposed to believe he can beat Floyd Mayweather? Good laugh.

PAC would make Floyd sign up for *****Care. See I was right, health come first .

[ADP02]

The reason I have always said Floyd beats Pacquiao is because he is the superior of the two, case closed. Marquez gave Manny opportunities to score them knock downs by taking risks which is something Mayweather won't do unless he has the absolute upper hand in the situation. Manny doesn't know how to engage a fight and that's why he ran into, got timed and put to sleep by Marquez's counter right which is Floyd's money punch. I know people like to believe Manny is Floyd's toughest fight but I have never seen it. Stylistically Floyd is a nightmare for Manny and this thing about south paws and Floyd is ludicrous because the only south paw who did anything against Floyd was Zab but only for 4 rds.

Castillo gave Floyd his toughest fight and he is a righty but Floyd clearly beat him in the rematch. In order to beat Mayweather you have to out think or at least be able to think on paar with him and adjust. Manny could not even adjust to Marquez after 4 fights, 3 weight classes and 12 years. Manny even admitted he underestimated Marquez going into the 3rd fight because he was beating up on bigger guys and Marquez was the smaller man. Totally underestimated the toughest opponent of his life only to get KO'd in the 4th fight and I'm supposed to believe he can beat Floyd Mayweather? Good laugh.

Zab: Not a consistent fighter and never was that good at WW.
Castillo: I haven't seen the fight in a while but I do remember that Castillo was using his left effectively and that gave Floyd lot's of problems.

"You need to out think Floyd" - GRUSTLER

Not necessarily. If you can, you need to do the opposite and make it a gun slinging affair or at the very least make it a high tempo affair. Floyd does much better when the fight is at a slow paced thinking type fight. Floyd gets into more trouble when the opponent can throw effective combinations and the fight is at a higher tempo.

Again, not everyone can do the above but I know that Manny could.

With someone like Sergio Martinez, I can see what you are saying working more but even then, Sergio should take it to Floyd and not make Floyd relax in the ring.

If it was as easy as you say, Floyd would have fought Manny and Sergio. Instead, Floyd told us that he is a lot more concerned than you when it comes to Manny and of course, Sergio.

One thing that I learned watching the sport is you can't always judge a potential matchup by looking at other fights like you appear to be doing (Manny vs Marquez). Every situation is different and everything needs to be taken into consideration.

Manny did much better against Oscar, Mosley, Cotto and Hatton.
Floyd did much better against Marquez.

Manny vs Marquez: Both had a hard time against one another. Yes Marquez KOed Manny but if you look at that fight, Manny was doing very well until that moment. Manny got caught while tripping over Marquez's foot. Floyd got caught against Mosley. One punch was more on the money than the other but it could have been the other way around.

What you are saying is like people were saying about Ali vs Frazier and vs Norton. Ali had no chance against Foreman if he had so much trouble with guys that Foreman destroyed.

The only thing that I know for sure is that Floyd refused to fight Manny even though he would have made the biggest payday of his career. Many video clips show that Floyd is overly concerned.

[WESS]

I dont read these threads normally.

But i just have ONE QUESTION....

If Floyd says the main reason he wont fight Pac now is because he doesn't want to do business with Arum...
..Was that also a major issue years ago when he was demanding Pac take blood tests?

Just an honest question. I really havent followed every aspect of the Pac-Floyd saga over the years.

Why would it be? Bob Arum hadn't made excuse after excuse on why Pac was not going to fight Floyd at that point...

[John Barron]

Why would it be? Bob Arum hadn't made excuse after excuse on why Pac was not going to fight Floyd at that point...

floyd suddenly doesn't want to work with arum. suddenly, as in 2009 was just yesterday.

bob can make any excuse for manny not to fight and these people will still consider him a non-factor in these negotiations. makes no sense lol.

the old **** never made any effort to be slick with it too. there are so many cringeworthy headlines over the years from bob that many people have conveniently overlooked.

[GRUSTLER]

Zab: Not a consistent fighter and never was that good at WW.
Castillo: I haven't seen the fight in a while but I do remember that Castillo was using his left effectively and that gave Floyd lot's of problems.

"You need to out think Floyd" - GRUSTLER

Not necessarily. If you can, you need to do the opposite and make it a gun slinging affair or at the very least make it a high tempo affair. Floyd does much better when the fight is at a slow paced thinking type fight. Floyd gets into more trouble when the opponent can throw effective combinations and the fight is at a higher tempo.

Again, not everyone can do the above but I know that Manny could.

With someone like Sergio Martinez, I can see what you are saying working more but even then, Sergio should take it to Floyd and not make Floyd relax in the ring.

If it was as easy as you say, Floyd would have fought Manny and Sergio. Instead, Floyd told us that he is a lot more concerned than you when it comes to Manny and of course, Sergio.

One thing that I learned watching the sport is you can't always judge a potential matchup by looking at other fights like you appear to be doing (Manny vs Marquez). Every situation is different and everything needs to be taken into consideration.

Manny did much better against Oscar, Mosley, Cotto and Hatton.
Floyd did much better against Marquez.

Manny vs Marquez: Both had a hard time against one another. Yes Marquez KOed Manny but if you look at that fight, Manny was doing very well until that moment. Manny got caught while tripping over Marquez's foot. Floyd got caught against Mosley. One punch was more on the money than the other but it could have been the other way around.

What you are saying is like people were saying about Ali vs Frazier and vs Norton. Ali had no chance against Foreman if he had so much trouble with guys that Foreman destroyed.

The only thing that I know for sure is that Floyd refused to fight Manny even though he would have made the biggest payday of his career. Many video clips show that Floyd is overly concerned.

I appreciate you replying back in a respectful manner the highlighted part of your post made me not want to debate any longer.

[ADP02]

I appreciate you replying back in a respectful manner the highlighted part of your post made me not want to debate any longer.

It is what it is. Everything needs to be taken into consideration. Manny did trip over Marquez's foot. If he didn't things WOULD have been different.

A round before, same incident but Manny reacts enough to absorb the punch well.

By Manny tripping, it's like leaving a hanging fast ball over the plate. Same principle.

Even if you disagree with that, it was just one instance of the fight. You take away the knock down as well and Manny was giving it to Marquez. So to say that BOTH have a hard time with each other. You make it sound like it's one sided but it's far far from that. I think you can be objective enough to agree with that and THAT WAS REALLY THE POINT!

[GRUSTLER]

It is what it is. Everything needs to be taken into consideration. Manny did trip over Marquez's foot. If he didn't things WOULD have been different.

A round before, same incident but Manny reacts enough to absorb the punch well.

By Manny tripping, it's like leaving a hanging fast ball over the plate. Same principle.

Even if you disagree with that, it was just one instance of the fight. You take away the knock down as well and Manny was giving it to Marquez. So to say that BOTH have a hard time with each other. You make it sound like it's one sided but it's far far from that. I think you can be objective enough to agree with that and THAT WAS REALLY THE POINT!

I don't agree with the tripping part but I do agree that Marquez and Mannny give each other major problems but in all of their fights Marquez could have gotten the win as well with exception to the 1st fight where that should have been scored for Manny instead of a draw.