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Does anyone throw the pull-back counter right hand to the jab better than Mayweather?

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    #21
    Originally posted by Espy View Post
    Yeah he definitely does.

    I think opposing fighters know it is coming too. George Foreman (I believe) in one of Floyd's fights said about this stance: "it looks like he's a sprinter. looks like he's a sprinter on his mark." (something to this effect)

    I think it's just incredibly hard to deal with Mayweather's reflexes and baiting with the constant head fakes. I realized that if a fighter doesn't commit to punching when Mayweather head fakes in this position that he will just start teeing off with lead rights.

    The reason his pull counter is so effective is distance. Before he settles into this distance he gets off first almost every time forcing fighters to be aggressive to his feints and head fakes. That's why he's so frustrating, he beats you to the punch, then gives you different looks that seem more enticing and counters off these looks.
    Floyd is a genuis when it come to counters,but George said that Felix Trinidad stance is like a sprinter not Floyd

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      #22
      You guys know why he's so good at that?

      What do you think that pad work with Roger is doing? Floyd's got that counter down like we have tying our shoes down. It's beyond second nature. It's ingrained in him since he put on gloves.

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        #23
        PCP = Pull Counter Party

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          #24
          Originally posted by jas View Post




          I don't consider the second example a true pull counter, but to answer the question, no, maybe Rigo, but I don't think Rigo uses it nearly as often.

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            #25
            Easy when you fight guys with no jabs

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                #27
                Originally posted by jas View Post
                i noticed he changes his stance when he's ready to throw the right lead. he turns his back foot
                ive noticed this for years lol and cant figure out why none of his opponents have ever been able to see it coming

                when floyd is looking for that pull counter right hand, he lifts his right back foot onto the toes to gain extra leverage/traction for what hes about to do ...you would think somebody would have studied this by now and learned to avoid jabbing when hes in that stance

                i guess they do but hes STILL too fast to avoid it

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                  #28


                  At 14:10 Roy throws a counter that is better and more effective than anything Floyd has thrown in his life.
                  Last edited by KiloTeague; 03-18-2014, 10:29 PM.

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                    #29
                    one of very few i love about floyd, **** is superb, definitely the best ive seen

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
                      Current fighter??? HELL NO

                      But James Toney, Ali and Archie Moore were damn good at it as well
                      yes, and ali's right hand counters were a sight to behold as these rights do fell foes down...

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