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    Originally posted by Ballagoal View Post
    Hell no... he isn't an All Time Great and will most likely never be. If he starts taking over now, suddenly can take a punch and doesn't offer excuses for everything, and become the undisputed champ for a few years then he might be a great for his era but compared to all time greats like Ali, Marciano, Louis, Holyfield & Tyson he simply is something near nothing. If he becomes the champ, I blieve he would be the champ of one of the weakest heavyweight divisions ever.

    Anyway.. he won't be an all time great, like I said, maybe a great for his era but I don't even believe that. And if I see somebody ranking him in an all time greats ranking before the likes of Ali, Marciano, Louis, Holyfield and Tyson... hell... I would be depressed.
    This post pretty much says it all: great of his era, exceptional champion in a weak division and not ever close to the likes of Ali, Holyfield, Foreman et al.

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      it's way too early to tell, oh wait it's not 2006 anymore. Yes, of coure he will, obviously

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        If there was a heated "ATG" debate about Wlad 10 years ago I'm sure he's been cemented by now. Check thread date ya bozos.

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          Originally posted by Cruisin' View Post
          If there was a heated "ATG" debate about Wlad 10 years ago I'm sure he's been cemented by now. Check thread date ya bozos.
          Yeah I don't see anyway this could be a debate anymore. Wlad could very well be top 10 heavyweight of all time imo. Putting him anywhere lower than top 20 is a joke.

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            Not 9 years ago, but today obviously yes.

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              Originally posted by BrometheusBob View Post
              Bro did you just bump a 9 year old thread to participate in a discussion that is no longer relevant? The posts in this thread were obviously basing their decision on much less information than we have now. Wlad is obv an ATG now.
              It's pretty sad that he obviously trawled through old threads on the search engine then responded nonchalantly to this one as though no one would notice the fact that it's already nine frigging years old.

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                For a second I thought some 'tard made this in this year.

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                  Only racists or trolls would think of him not as a great, that's simply the truth.

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                    Originally posted by BLOODSHED View Post
                    I'm just curious?
                    No chance. Glorifyed journeyman dominating the HW's weakest era in history. Fury will expose his limitations and lack of heart.

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