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    Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
    It's not gonna matter at all if Golovkin keeps fighting the Adamas and Lees of the world. Those are horrible fights. I don't even want him to fight ward now. But this domestic level tear he's been on his last few fights? Garbage and it's really getting hard to defend.
    He just fought Macklin two fights ago. Macklin is clearly a top level middleweight when the others are Geale and Sturm and guys like that. Stevens and Mora were the only ones willing after Macklin. Adama was never meant to be anything more than a stay busy fight before his next HBO date. That's 2 fights, not a domestic level tear. We'll see who is willing to fight him in April, hopefully all the HBO backing will get some middleweights in the ring with him.

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      Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
      He just fought Macklin two fights ago. Macklin is clearly a top level middleweight when the others are Geale and Sturm and guys like that. Stevens and Mora were the only ones willing after Macklin. Adama was never meant to be anything more than a stay busy fight before his next HBO date. That's 2 fights, not a domestic level tear. We'll see who is willing to fight him in April, hopefully all the HBO backing will get some middleweights in the ring with him.
      Yea he fought Macklin in his last 2 fights. Then Stevens then Adama, and if it's Lee as I was pointing out, it would be a 3 fight domestic level tear. That's basically what I said.

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        Originally posted by Xpert View Post
        This is not an alt. The moderators says I'm not an alt. If you disagree, then you should take that discussion with the mods instead of spamming my thread, two of the guys who called me a troll or an alt has been banned, do you wanna be next? No? Then STFU.

        1) Stevens did A LOT better against Golovkin than Macklin did, he even had Golovkin cautious, Macklin was just a bug to be squashed in front of Golovkin.
        2) Stevens would never lose to Jamie Moore and Andrew Facey, y'know, the unknown bums that exposed Macklin.
        3) Stevens' recent 1RKO of Ma***ski was deadly.

        Stop being so ****ing racist, everytime a white fighter does okay, people start hyping him, Macklin is certainly behind Stevens and only an idiot or a troll would think otherwise. The "Macklin is good"-myth started after Golovkin beat Macklin because Golovkin's fans were desperate to make it seem like a good win.
        I suspect a MW Stevens would beat Macklin now. He has looked very impressive since his lay-off, but Macklin has been considered a top 5 MW since 2011 when he fought (and most thought beat) Felix Sturm. Stevens has never been in any top 5 - though H2H I've a feeling he could beat a number who are.

        In fact, contrary to what you're saying, in the light of the Golovkin loss Macklins standing has taken a very big hit. Until then he was considered by most to be the best of the pick of the British/ Irish MW pack (Barker, Lee, Murray, Macklin). He was actually a very well respected fighter if you check the MW lists of the time.

        FWIW the Jamie Moore fight (for the British JMW title) was an epic fight and well worth a watch.

        Stevens also has 1 or 2 less than impressive losses on his record of course, but TBH I don't necessarily hold that against a fighter, and especially since moving down I would probably give him a decent chance of beating anyone not named Golovkin at 160 (though he didn't show up so well in the Findley fight, possibly cos Derrick wasn't giving him much to counter).
        Last edited by Citizen Koba; 02-04-2014, 08:48 AM.

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          Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
          I suspect a MW Stevens would beat Macklin now. He has looked very impressive since his lay-off, but Macklin has been considered a top 5 MW since 2011 when he fought (and most thought beat) Felix Sturm. Stevens has never been in any top 5 - though H2H I've a feeling he could beat a number who are.

          In fact, contrary to what you're saying, in the light of the Golovkin loss Macklins standing has taken a very big hit. Until then he was considered by most to be the best of the pick of the British/ Irish MW pack (Barker, Lee, Murray, Macklin). He was actually a very well respected fighter if you check the MW lists of the time.

          FWIW the Jamie Moore fight (for the British JMW title) was an epic fight and well worth a watch.

          Stevens also has 1 or 2 less than impressive losses on his record of course, but TBH I don't necessarily hold that against a fighter, and especially since moving down I would probably give him a decent chance of beating anyone not named Golovkin at 160 (though he didn't show up so well in the Findley fight, possibly cos Derrick wasn't giving him much to counter).
          Stevens had 1 horrible loss, against journeyman Marcos Primera, but Stevens immediately avenged that loss, which Macklin has never done with his losses. No shame in losing to Golovkin or Dirrell. The Brinkley loss was kinda bad, but not as bad as the losses of Macklin.
          Last edited by Xpert; 02-04-2014, 09:47 AM.

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            Originally posted by Xpert View Post
            This is not an alt. The moderators says I'm not an alt. If you disagree, then you should take that discussion with the mods instead of spamming my thread, two of the guys who called me a troll or an alt has been banned, do you wanna be next? No? Then STFU.

            1) Stevens did A LOT better against Golovkin than Macklin did, he even had Golovkin cautious, Macklin was just a bug to be squashed in front of Golovkin.
            2) Stevens would never lose to Jamie Moore and Andrew Facey, y'know, the unknown bums that exposed Macklin.
            3) Stevens' recent 1RKO of Ma***ski was deadly.

            Stop being so ****ing racist, everytime a white fighter does okay, people start hyping him, Macklin is certainly behind Stevens and only an idiot or a troll would think otherwise. The "Macklin is good"-myth started after Golovkin beat Macklin because Golovkin's fans were desperate to make it seem like a good win.
            Revisionist history combined with some race baiting? Cong****.

            The "Macklin is good" "myth" started with the Sturm vs Macklin fight, which every unbiased observer thought Macklin won, and continued with his much better than expected (if somewhat overrated) showing against Martinez.

            For the record I personally have never been very high on Macklin. I think he is a bit of an overachiever, but his resume is waaay better than that of Stevens, and that has nothing to do with race.

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              Originally posted by Xpert View Post
              This is not an alt. The moderators says I'm not an alt. If you disagree, then you should take that discussion with the mods instead of spamming my thread, two of the guys who called me a troll or an alt has been banned, do you wanna be next? No? Then STFU.

              1) Stevens did A LOT better against Golovkin than Macklin did, he even had Golovkin cautious, Macklin was just a bug to be squashed in front of Golovkin.
              2) Stevens would never lose to Jamie Moore and Andrew Facey, y'know, the unknown bums that exposed Macklin.
              3) Stevens' recent 1RKO of Ma***ski was deadly.

              Stop being so ****ing racist, everytime a white fighter does okay, people start hyping him, Macklin is certainly behind Stevens and only an idiot or a troll would think otherwise. The "Macklin is good"-myth started after Golovkin beat Macklin because Golovkin's fans were desperate to make it seem like a good win.
              Whatever it is, this account of yours sucks balls. Clueless, shrill, race baiting, and all over the place

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                Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                Whatever it is, this account of yours sucks balls. Clueless, shrill, race baiting, and all over the place
                Seriously, if you disagree with me, tell me why instead of acting like a primitive caveman or monkey or whatever the **** you're pretending to be right now...

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                  Originally posted by Xpert View Post
                  "I'm getting too sick of watching him fighting bums and how it impresses his ****** fans."
                  Did you watch Ward'z last fight?

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                    Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
                    Did you watch Ward'z last fight?
                    Yeah, he beat a better guy than any on Golovkin's resume.

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                      Andy "Subway" Lee.

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