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    #51
    Originally posted by US Dirk Killer View Post
    How does that make Liakhovich and Audley Harrison Elite at the time Wilder beat them?
    At the time Wilder fought both...his handlers were looking for low-risk,big name guys who could give Wilder some much needed rounds vs legit top 30HW fighters. Wilder was just too powerful and crushed both of them. Firtha was a solid journeyman brought in to give him rounds and he crushed him. He is too good for that class fighter.

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      #52
      Originally posted by takingaim View Post
      He is nothing. A complete & utter bum. The purest example of an American hype job, and I will take great pleasure in watching him get flattened by whoever, it doesn't matter. He believes his own hype, so I hate him even more. Yes, I'm a 'hater'. I absolutely ****ing despise this bum. His windmills & stick-thin bambi legs just make me laugh. My god what an absolute joke.
      Pretty much this.

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        #53
        Until someone can absorb his punch for MORE than 3 rds.. all the haters of him have nothing to stand on... yes the opposition is bad but come on guys..

        NOT one fighter out of 30 has been able to absorb his combinations for as long as 12 minutes... until someone does we have to look at the glass as half/full instead of half empty.... sure his chin might be shattered or not made of granite but if you can't absolutely absorb his shots & he's 6 ft 7 with a reach.. then you're shet out of luck.....


        Earnie Shavers comes to mind here.. killer punch.. weak jaw.. Wlad is also an example but Wlad has an incredible jab & holding techniques.. let's just see what happens... as soon as this guy unloads & connects his opponents are out of there.
        Last edited by KBRO; 01-16-2014, 07:19 PM.

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          #54
          I'll start believing after I see a fight in which he takes at least 35 power shots to the face.

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            #55
            Originally posted by packyow View Post
            I think he fails at the top level..I'm not sure he's a better prospect than say David Price..
            David Price is more fragile mentally & is a bit more gun shy. His defense is weaker. They both might have similar chins & power but Wilder has more belief in himself... can't teach confidence.

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              #56
              I'll consider him when he beats a legit opponent

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                #57
                From what I see... Wilder gets a lot of the similar criticism Vitali Klitschko has gotten in his career. It's called the weak opposition card when one does something that hasn't been done before. Vitali has accomplished obviously much more & even his critics will state his comp is top of the line compared to Wilder's.

                What's undeniable here is Vitali Klitschko stopped his first 27 opponents & Wilder is the ONLY one that has topped it with 30 ko's in a row to start any type of heavyweight career.

                No one has taken this guy a full 4 rds in the ring... his fights last an average of less than 2 rds. Vitali Klitschko... no one has been able to win more than 2 rds from him on official scorecards in ANY of his 47 professional bouts.

                That's where the similarities are.... we are quick to DISMISS something that's never been done before because in society in general.. there's GOT to be a catch... in Vitali Klitschko's case he's MORE than proved there's no catch at all but most attribute his unprecedented dominance to lack of quality & weak opponent resistance.

                As everyone knows I believe 100% Vitali Klitschko is the most dominant heavyweight champion ever & most here would NOT disagree with this if they were keeping it real.. they just disagree in how he has gone about doing so.

                We might be doing the same thing here with Wilder.. until someone can break the pattern no matter whom it is.. so far it hasn't BEEN broken so you can't prove that it can be done until it occurs... but to give someone the benefit of the doubt is to totally change our beliefs.... there's GOT TO BE A CATCH!

                & it's 50/50 that he's a fraud... those are the FACTUAL odds here but we make it seem as if it's 95/5.... actually it's probably 55/45 he's legit because HE'S GOT MORE proof of what he's capable of doing than you have of him not doing... food for thought.
                Last edited by KBRO; 01-16-2014, 07:51 PM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by packyow View Post
                  I think he fails at the top level..I'm not sure he's a better prospect than say David Price..

                  wilder has much more the talent. price is stiff by comparison, and he doesn't have nearly the power.

                  price is a more experienced boxer, though. i'll give you that. wilder's absolutely still a prospect.

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