Is Mayweather Justified In His Refusal To Deal With Arum For The Pacquiao Fight?

[Fetta]

At the end of the day, a FMJ fan and someone who views boxing strictly as a "business" sport may have points to justify this...

But a true "boxing" fan who views the sport only for what it is, a sport, will not..

FMJ just doesn't like the fact that MP and Arum would make money "also" from this fight... That's it. If you love what FMJ brings to the table and would love to see his ultimate true potential, you would be rooting for this fight, not coming up with excuses as to why he hasnt or wont ever fight Manny...

Arum is just the latest excuse, that it all...

I agree but if a man stole from me, sued me, and dragged my nane through mud i wouldnt do business with them at all.

[ironmt]

I would have agreed that Mayweather would be justified In his refusal to deal with Arum for a Pacquiao fight If that would have been one of his stipulations In 2009/2010. Being that this Is a stipulation that just presented Itself In 2013, I can't see how this can be justified.

[daggum]

I agree but if a man stole from me, sued me, and dragged my nane through mud i wouldnt do business with them at all.

would you take a smiling picture next to a man who stole from you, sued you, dragged your name through the mud? floyd did. so weird....

[Big_L]

would you take a smiling picture next to a man who stole from you, sued you, dragged your name through the mud? floyd did. so weird....

and thanked him during his las vegas boxing hall of fame speech...

[Larry the boss]

No it is ok to get robbed by someone and continue to do business with them..only a coward would refuse to do buisness with a man who was and will rob them

[jwheels9876]

Considering he was apparently willing to do business with him in 2009 and 2010 then no it has no justification to now all of a sudden be "the problem" with the fight being made. Just another excuse IMO.

[T18Z]

What do you think? Mayweather and Arum have beef going back for some time now, it's not something that's fabricated, it's genuine, legal disputes between the two parties. I do feel Mayweather is justified in not wanting to deal with Arum at all, he has had to go to court because of Arum's previous dealings.. But what's the general consensus?

Here's an article from 2008, it's an interesting read:

Without fanfare, which is a rarity in boxing, Floyd Mayweather Jr. filed a lawsuit against his former promoter, Bob Arum of Top Rank, in Clark County (Nev.) District Court two weeks ago.

Mayweather claims that Arum shortchanged him on matches against Arturo Gatti in 2005 and Zab Judah in 2006. In the lawsuit, Mayweather said he was due 85% of Top Rank's revenue from the Gatti fight and 80% from the Judah fight. He claims Arum has refused to turn over the records for accounting. Mayweather has asked for the statutory minimum of $10,000 on each of the five counts, but would be in line for millions in punitive damages on a breach of contract claim.

This could get ugly before it's over, making it the heavyweight slugfest of the year.

In a strange twist, Arum admits that he owes Mayweather money and said he has told Mayweather's reps why he isn't giving it to him.

"There's no question we owe him some money," Arum said. "There's no dispute there. But he owes us a lot of money, and the people he's involved with owe us even more. After 98% of the money we owed him was paid, we stopped paying him for a reason.

"We're owed ... in the millions. We welcome this lawsuit. We wanted it to be filed. We have counterclaims and cross claims against certain other individuals involved with Mayweather. This is just the opening salvo in a major battle."

Arum and Mayweather parted ways in 2006 after Mayweather paid $750,000 to buy out his contract. That was triggered by Arum's refusal to guarantee Mayweather $20 million to fight Oscar De La Hoya, another Top Rank client, who successfully sued Arum to get out of his contract in 2001. Last year Mayweather and DeLa Hoya hooked up without Arum and fought in one of the highest grossing Pay-Per-View boxing events ever. Mayweather earned more than $30 million for the fight, and the two have planned a rematch for September.

Mayweather believes that Arum stymied his career during the time that he was promoting both Mayweather and De La Hoya (from 1996-2001).


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Read the bolded part, Arum owes Mayweather money because Mayweather already owed him millions and wasn't paying, so he took what was already his. Arum WANTS a court case to be opened, because it most likely means Mayweather would have to pay Arum the money he owes him too, so it won't do anything but cost Mayweather money to open the lawsuit.

Also, you really think if Mayweather had proof of all this or actually wanted his so called 'money' back he wouldn't just sue Arum and win? Or do none of you understand Mayweather doesn't take him to court because he has no leg to stand on if he already owes Arum money.

This whole Arum excuse is pathetic, it wasn't being used years ago but suddenly it's acceptable? He's a chicken, always has been, always will be.

[Outwest Exp 355]

Arum is a piece of ****! Still, the fans are the ones who lose out. Floyd never wanted to fight Manny. The osdt demands, the $40 million he offered, it was all bull****. He never wanted to make the fight because of that reason.

A 40 million dollar offer is bull*****? You guys have some set of balls. If Floyd offered Manny 40 million now he'd slap his mama to sign the contract.

[jwheels9876]

I would have agreed that Mayweather would be justified In his refusal to deal with Arum for a Pacquiao fight If that would have been one of his stipulations In 2009/2010. Being that this Is a stipulation that just presented Itself In 2013, I can't see how this can be justified.

Sorry, didn't see your comment . I posted the exact same thing lol.

[jwheels9876]

A 40 million dollar offer is bull*****? You guys have some set of balls. If Floyd offered Manny 40 million now he'd slap his mama to sign the contract.

Good logic, at least you got the now part right. Remember 4 years ago when Manny was destroying everyone in his path? Different times, different circumstances, different offers from then and now.