Comments Thread For: WBA: Golovkin's Request For Super Champion Denied

[Sweden2716]

Golovkin should be the super, galaxy, the universe, interim, city, world, continental (all seven continents) champion there should be at least 10 to 20 middleweight championships in the WBA, 20 in the WBC, etc spread the wealth let everybody be a champion.

[Sweden2716]

Being a "CHAMPION" does not mean anything anymore, championships get handed out like candy.

[DoktorSleepless]

lol, are you trying to make the WBA look like the good guys here?
They have 3 or 4 champions in a division at a time so they can extort money from them.

Shumenov is a super champion off of 18 months of inactivity

Jones held onto the belt for months after testing positive

And now it's the champions fault... for not forcing his mandatory challenger to fight him? Even though they already offered to fight and got turned down?

What responsibilities does the challenger have? Just sit back and crown me?

You do know Murray would never accept a purse bid because his claims of making more money down the line would be crushed by that, right?

I'm sure they has been a ton of crooked **** with the WBA, but if I'm hearing K2 is the one making these special requests, it's on K2. If it was the WBA's fault, why don't you hear K2 complaining about the WBA like they complained about the Sturm/WBA situation?

And if the WBA is actually the one denying making another super champion for once, that should be celebrated.

I wouldn't say it's negotiated seeing as they sent Hatton and offer and Hatton kept it to himself.

Murray is fighting on the undercard of a Golovkin fight for god's sake. I doubt something like that can happen without Hatton and K2 coming to a temporary agreement.

Murray is to help his Visa case.

Asfor the U.S... I doubt they have some huge desire to get it done in the States. They were down for Monaco and Canada.

Fighting in those places would mean less money. Hatton isn't taking any risky fights without maximizing their reward.

Do I know for sure if Hatton will really let Murray fight Golovkin after sorting the Visa problem? No, but it seems K2 is giving Murray the benefit of the doubt.

I also question Hatton now for not only turning down Golovkin,but Quillin to. I get that it was less money, but you're getting a title shot in your home

More money > hometown fights. Murray obviously doesn't give a **** about fighting an the opponent's home turn if means more money. Quillin will still be there later.

In insight though, the Quillin fight would have better since the Australian fight fell through.

[US Dirk Killer]

Glad they're doing that so that bum won't be a champion

[Rpgboxen]

Don't call them champions. Call them title holders.
I consider the real champion to be the lineal or Ring ****zine champion and or another title weather it be the WBA/WBC/WBO or the IBF title.

[Hougigo]

I'm sure they has been a ton of crooked **** with the WBA, but if I'm hearing K2 is the one making these special requests, it's on K2. If it was the WBA's fault, why don't you hear K2 complaining about the WBA like they complained about the Sturm/WBA situation?
If it's K2 making these special requests. I don't doubt they had to make one for Stevens because that dude wasn't even ranked at the time they fought. I checked their rankings Stevens was only rated in the WBC, but the WBA probably moved him into the top 15 after the fight was made. Also I don't see them complaining like Sturm/WBA situation because they were in Murray's position. If anything Murray and his team should be the ones complaining
And if the WBA is actually the one denying making another super champion for once, that should be celebrated.
I have a really hard time understanding this since they were so willing to upgrade Shumenov to super and pretty much everyone else they could to super status.


Murray is fighting on the undercard of a Golovkin fight for god's sake. I doubt something like that can happen without Hatton and K2 coming to an agreement.

Murray is to help his Visa case.
I concede to that, but the initial reaction to them being on Monaco was that they were going to be there for a world title fight for the regular title.


There is an obvious miscommunication here with everyone as Murray thinks he's fighting for the regular title and Chudinov thought he won the interim


Fighting in those places would mean less money. Hatton isn't taking any risky fights without maximizing their reward.

Less money than NY? K2 said they offered what, 500k? There's a good chance that's true since they paid Macklin and Stevens 300k. And they don't have to worry about NY's income tax and, I hate to say it because of Pacquiao's B.S trip to Macau, the U.S income tax.....this is strictly speaking money wise. Good for him getting his VISA, but I'm pretty sure HBO would follow Golovkin wherever, and a Canada fight would work better for them time was compared to Monaco

More money > hometown defense. Murray obviously doesn't give a **** about fighting an the opponent's home turn if means more money. Quillin will still be there later.

He's always getting mad about getting shafted in other dude's back yard, 200k in your backyard for a title fight and possible PPV revenue, if they did it, sounds good to me. Not like he'd make that much against Quilin in the states, After he became champ, Rosado and Guerrero made less than that.
But yea, he is about the money which is why he'd never accept a purse bid where he got 75 percent of a deal that'd be less than hashing out a deal. Nobody likes that game, let's see who can bid the highest while keeping it as low as possible

I didn't know why they didn't just pursue a purse bid before, but now I know why. Everybody is talking about risk vs reward with Golovkin.
Nobody is going to take a purse bid against this guy.... a 75/25 purse bid is the exact opposite of what everybody wants

[DoktorSleepless]

Less money than NY? K2 said they offered what, 500k? There's a good chance that's true since they paid Macklin and Stevens 300k. And they don't have to worry about NY's income tax and, I hate to say it because of Pacquiao's B.S trip to Macau, the U.S income tax.....this is strictly speaking money wise. Good for him getting his VISA, but I'm pretty sure HBO would follow Golovkin wherever, and a Canada fight would work better for them time was compared to Monaco

I was talking about and Canada and Monaco. There would be less money there. The NY offer is meaningless if Murray can't fight there yet.

I concede to that, but the initial reaction to them being on Monaco was that they were going to be there for a world title fight for the regular title.


There is an obvious miscommunication here with everyone as Murray thinks he's fighting for the regular title and Chudinov thought he won the interim

It was probably both K2's and Hatton's idea so it helps the Monoco promotion. (having multiple world title fights on a card sounds fancier) I also remember Hatton saying the title would "open doors to fights in America." I think he meant that having the WBA title would help his Visa case somehow.

[Hougigo]

I was talking about and Canada and Monaco. There would be less money there. The NY offer is meaningless if Murray can't fight there yet.


It was probably both K2's and Hatton's idea so it helps the Monoco promotion. (having mutiple world title fights sounds fancier) I also remember Hatton saying the title would open doors to fights in America. I think he meant that having the WBA title would help his Visa case somehow.

Still though, the 500k was for Canada wasn't it?
Unless they offer much larger purses, he'd be making...rather keeping less in NY.

I'll concede to that again... they could be trying to build up a fight...but I don't really understand how fighting Jerrod Fletcher is building up a fight. Being on his undercard isn't that great of a build up unless the opponent is good...and why not the #2 instead of the #3...who happens to be Geale?
That would've been a far superior build up fight.

Here's what confuses me the most.... why the WBA turned down these fancy multiple titles when they themselves love doing it. I refuse to believe that these guys got their morals straight and want to clean up their mess of a 3 champ division, especially since they just made Shumenov a super champ with the 18 month layoff...but there's a better chance of me gaping Jennifer Lawrences ****** than that happening or being true.

[Hougigo]

I guess my point is, it doesn't have to be in NY.... the Canada offer was to avoid the Visa issue while offering the same amount they would've offered in NY. Canada isn't a huge problem for HBO because of the time zone compared to Monaco

[mathed]

They denied him because he hasn't done shizz yet and Adama is another no-hoper.....just like Stevens was.