Floyd Mayweather Jr vs. Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

[bigjavi973]

Floyd is a fraud and a blood-doping feen:





any flowmos want to defend this obvious cheater???

[Caught Square]

"One chance for Pacman are knockdowns but of course if he hit him clear (1% chance)."

See. This type of foolery is what's wrong with this site. Who the hell do you think Floyd is? Did you not watch the Maidana fights? Did you not watch the Cotto fight? Did you not watch the Castillo fights? What about the Corley fight? What about the first five rounds of the Judah fight? Floyd Mayweather is not as good as you think he is. The level of opposition he's faced and the circumstances surrounding when he faced him, says A LOT. Manny Pacquiao will hit Floyd and hit Floyd often for 12 rounds like he does everyone else he fights. We are talking about one of the greatest and most unique offensive fighters, EVER. Besides the Bradley robbery and the Roidquez cheat; when was the last time Manny CLEARLY lost a fight? It was March, 2005 against Morales in their first encounter. Manny is a BAD dude, idiot. Guess what else? Floyd cannot handle the right kind of activity that Manny presents. He will lose if he mans up. He is OLD and overrated at the same time.

Lol. Mayweather absolutely dominated the Corley fight. You say he is overrated but maybe you are overrating him if you consider him to struggle against a fighter on the basis of being rocked in 1 round.

I'm intrigued by this activity you speak of. Against Marquez 3 and Bradley 2 he threw around 550 punches but against the likes of Margarito and Clottey is when he had the great volume of punches. Could it be that he can only throw in volume against certain styles? you tell me.

[SplitSecond]

Floyd is a fraud and a blood-doping feen:





any flowmos want to defend this obvious cheater???

this is gonna catch feelings

[bigjavi973]

this is gonna catch feelings

its gonna be interesting to see how the flowmos defend this "vampire facial"

[GOD-FR33]

Pay attention..........

Pay close attention to what was said. It was pure dumbness. Manny is one of the greatest offensive fighters, to ever step in the ring. I don't care who he is fighting, he hits his opponents and busts their faces up. FACT. I don't care if he throws 500 punches, or 1,000 punches. Manny can adapt to any style. If he faces Floyd, Floyd will be surprised at Manny's timed aggression, coupled with good defense. He will be fast of hand and foot; and he will beat Floyd to the punch. At times, he will step on the gas, very carefully, out throwing and out landing Floyd with scoring flurries. If CA didn't come to run and survive, he would've been KO'ed. His eyes were swelling shut after 3-4rounds. What does that tell you? One, Manny is extremely fast. Two, he can crack. And three, he can find a defensive target, a moving target, etc before they can move.

[Caught Square]

Pay close attention to what was said. It was pure dumbness. Manny is one of the greatest offensive fighters, to ever step in the ring. I don't care who he is fighting, he hits his opponents and busts their faces up. FACT. I don't care if he throws 500 punches, or 1,000 punches. Manny can adapt to any style. If he faces Floyd, Floyd will be surprised at Manny's timed aggression, coupled with good defense. He will be fast of hand and foot; and he will beat Floyd to the punch. At times, he will step on the gas, very carefully, out throwing and out landing Floyd with scoring flurries. If CA didn't come to run and survive, he would've been KO'ed. His eyes were swelling shut after 3-4rounds. What does that tell you? One, Manny is extremely fast. Two, he can crack. And three, he can find a defensive target, a moving target, etc before they can move.

Yes i agree he is one of the best offensive fighters but i'm saying that can be neutralised by a counter puncher who can make him think twice before throwing. If he bust Marquez up so bad in the 3rd fight everyone would think he won but they don't, it's largely split on who won or whether it was a draw. From Margarito who is a face first volume puncher and dealt with over 1000 punches to patient Marquez a year later who dealt with 550 punches, you can say you don't care but there is a clear correlation.

Manny wouldn't need to fight someone 4 times if he could adapt to any style.

[JustinFloyd]

Yes i agree he is one of the best offensive fighters but i'm saying that can be neutralised by a counter puncher who can make him think twice before throwing. If he bust Marquez up so bad in the 3rd fight everyone would think he won but they don't, it's largely split on who won or whether it was a draw. From Margarito who is a face first volume puncher and dealt with over 1000 punches to patient Marquez a year later who dealt with 550 punches, you can say you don't care but there is a clear correlation.

Manny wouldn't need to fight someone 4 times if he could adapt to any style.

Pac was countered many times but the problem is if its have enough power, Pac will just walk through it and continue his offensive. Just like the last one, Algerie was able to counter Pac but power is not enough. Like cotto as well, Pac able to absorb counter punches and we all know that Floyd dont have enough power to neutralize pac offense. Do you think Floyd have enough power like incredible hulk marquez to ONE PUNCH KO pac?

[GOD-FR33]

It isn't enough....

Manny beat Roidquez 3 out of 4 fights. Why? It's simple. He out-threw and out-landed him. It's very hard to outpoint Manny. It's a risk most of his opponents don't try and take; at least not for 12 rounds. Roidquez lost the 3rd fight. He also "ran" in the 12th because he was tired and didn't want to get caught with anything big. It was mainly a sparring match but outside of the single shots he landed, Manny out-landed him like 2-3 to 1. The controversy over their fights is kind of ****** if you ask me. In the 4th fight. Roidquez came in the ring juiced up and was looking for the one shot. Ironically , so was Manny. The difference that night had little to do with Roidquez's counter punch, and more to do with AH. I just call it like I see it. His power was the difference in the fight. It was power he su****iously never brought to their previous 3 fights.

One attribute doesn't beat a great fighter. Counter punching alone will not beat Manny. Especially not this version of Manny, who is smarter than ever in the ring. Floyd is doomed, either way. Anytime you want to learn something about the sport, I can definitely help.

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Pac was countered many times but the problem is if its have enough power, Pac will just walk through it and continue his offensive. Just like the last one, Algerie was able to counter Pac but power is not enough. Like cotto as well, Pac able to absorb counter punches and we all know that Floyd dont have enough power to neutralize pac offense. Do you think Floyd have enough power like incredible hulk marquez to ONE PUNCH KO pac?

No i don't think Floyd would drop or KO Pacquiao, i see him winning a unanimous decision. Floyd isn't a concussive puncher by any means but with his technique and accuracy he can land flush punches which get his opponents attention and make them wary of not being reckless again.

Manny beat Roidquez 3 out of 4 fights. Why? It's simple. He out-threw and out-landed him. It's very hard to outpoint Manny. It's a risk most of his opponents don't try and take; at least not for 12 rounds. Roidquez lost the 3rd fight. He also "ran" in the 12th because he was tired and didn't want to get caught with anything big. It was mainly a sparring match but outside of the single shots he landed, Manny out-landed him like 2-3 to 1. The controversy over their fights is kind of ****** if you ask me. In the 4th fight. Roidquez came in the ring juiced up and was looking for the one shot. Ironically , so was Manny. The difference that night had little to do with Roidquez's counter punch, and more to do with AH. I just call it like I see it. His power was the difference in the fight. It was power he su****iously never brought to their previous 3 fights.

One attribute doesn't beat a great fighter. Counter punching alone will not beat Manny. Especially not this version of Manny, who is smarter than ever in the ring. Floyd is doomed, either way. Anytime you want to learn something about the sport, I can definitely help.

Manny out landed Marquez 2-3 to 1? i'd double check that. In the 3rd fight he outlanded him but nowhere near that margin and in the 2nd fight Pacquiao was outlanded.

Obviously counter punching alone won't beat Pacquiao. That wasn't my point, my point was that it can make Pacquiao cautious since you were saying about Floyd handling his activity.

[JustinFloyd]

No i don't think Floyd would drop or KO Pacquiao, i see him winning a unanimous decision. Floyd isn't a concussive puncher by any means but with his technique and accuracy he can land flush punches which get his opponents attention and make them wary of not being reckless again.



Manny out landed Marquez 2-3 to 1? i'd double check that. In the 3rd fight he outlanded him but nowhere near that margin and in the 2nd fight Pacquiao was outlanded.

Obviously counter punching alone won't beat Pacquiao. That wasn't my point, my point was that it can make Pacquiao cautious since you were saying about Floyd handling his activity.

Thats the big problem of floyd, he cant make Pac cautious. As I said, Cotto the harder puncher countered Pac many times and doesn't stop. He cant also run the whole 12 rounds like Algeri, Pac will catch floyd. And how can you you win a LEGITIMATE unanimous decision if you keep running while the other guy is throwing 10 punches combo.