Comments Thread For: HBO, Showtime Split Ratings Audience on December 7th

[285Kid]

Kirkland/Tapia move the meter I guess Kikland getting more tv time ,maybe a fight with GGG or Andrade next, hell i can see Tapia getting more tv time if he 100%

[lazarito52]

after rigondeauxs beating of ducknaire , his next fight should have been made in miami . bob arum should bring rigo to his cubans fans here in miami , not in ny as the same city where golden boy was helding a card also .or bob arum did it on purpose or he doesnt want to promote rigo .

[lazarito52]

still , rigo was watched by 500 000 boxing purist , in a night where others boxers as judah and maligginagi , with more name and exposure than rigo were also doing their thing . if there had not been a showtime card , rigo would have hqad around a million followers , but bob arum is hurting rigos promotion , as he beat the norigo ducknaire train badly , exposing the light weight.

[-Kev-]

I was about to raise that same point in a separate argument. Aside from the mid-week press conference, wasn't very much done to raise awareness for the show. Having Agbeko as an opponent didn't help - card from inception to execution seemed geared towards sandbagging Rigondeaux.

As soon as Rigondeaux-Agbeko was signed I knew it was sandbagging from Arum. Nothing good was going to come out of that match up and Arum and the matchmakers knew this already. Why not Rigo-Vazquez Jr/Arce/Montiel and those come forward fighters? Agbeko, a dirty fighter?

Every one was all excited for this fight, while I was confused as to why they were excited.

[MAXIMUS~RICO~13]

Even though your recording both programs which i did,you have to be watching a perticular show to contribute to the ratings....i watched the showtime card first then watched hbo last..hbos card didnt apeal to me as much..and most people prefer hbo over showtime anyways...i got em both simply becuz of the boxing..

I order showtime just for the boxing, Im with you on the appeal of the showtime card that is why I watched it live and dvr the HBO card. the macklin and rigo fight were duds to me.

[DoktorSleepless]

Oh and all this **** about people walking out on Rigondeaux is a ***in LIE, I am told by someone that attended is that with Tapia being a Jersey Boy (which happen to be his nickname ironically lol), he had A LOT OF family and friends that came out to see HIM, once he lost they started leaving, it had nothing to do with "Rigondeaux Style" but HBO sure did try to make it look that way

First pic is after round 2. Second pic is after round 11.


Kirkland-Tapia fight for comparison.

[SkillspayBills]

Do they initially count DVR in these numbers. I watched BK live and Rigo and Kirkland the next day.

[rey guey]

I'll explain why Rigondeaux is a boring fighter. you can watch 3 rounds of a Rigondeaux fight and it will basically be the same for the rest of the fight. he's a slick counter puncher and has great technical skills.

but Rigondeaux doesn't take any risks to use his skills and go for a KO. he's just fine with going to UD. if you risk nothing don't expect to get anything.


Only a few boxing fans really like that style. it doesn't make you a "purist" if you do like Rigo's style nor does it make you any less of a fan for finding that style boring.

case in point Max Kellerman talks mad s hit about Miguel Vazquez, calls him boring unentertaining. Miguel Vazquez is actually a technically brilliant fight who use is a master of timing, spacing and movement. he's arhythmic movements really though fighters off. he throws a jab and moves around in a hurky jerky way, totally throwing the other fighter off. I don't hear those same purists coming to his defense, expect Roy Jones or Teddy Atlas.

after saying all that good stuff about Miguel Vazquez I still think he's boring to watch. he's doesn't risk much to entertain and that's the problem. neither does Rigo.

all I'm saying is if you're a world level fighter and play it safe, then a majority of fans won't watch. 2ndly if you like a certain style it doesn't make you a more hardcore fan, it just makes you a fan of a particular style. a lot of people can see what and why Rigondeaux is good but that doesn't mean they can watch more than a few rounds of it without being bored.

[mathed]

I had no idea until like Thursday that ALL those fights were coming on this past weekend. A great night of boxing but putting the cards on the same night is a waste of money.....even stacked cards barely break half a mill views.

[Ringlife]

I watched the Showtime card first then I watched the HBO card 7 1/2 hrs of boxing.