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    Originally posted by Cgarcia View Post
    The problem with Floyd saying he's leaving it to his team is that when they do he runs away and cries on Don King's shoulder as when Haymon negotiated with Arum under Ross Greenburg's supervision. He was actually contemplating on signing up with Mr King at the time. He was angry at Haymon.

    50 cent also made the mistake of assuming Floyd gave his blessings. Their friendship ended. So when it's about Pacman, you can pretty much predict the story's ending.

    People need to move on and stop mentioning Pacquiao when it comes to Floyd.
    Lol, Arum and Haymon never even looked at each other never mind talk/negotiate, do you know how much Arum hates Haymon? Lol

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      Floyd/Cotto.

      "Hell, Cotto wasn't even impressive, it was just an attempted cherry pick that turned out harder than it was supposed to be."

      This is exactly what happened in that fight. Cotto had more left in the tank than he was supposed to and somewhat exposed Mayweather for the over-rated fighter he is. I said going in that he's never been in with a true LIVE dog that had legs, a great jab, who could think with him and who was defensively responsible. Cotto made him work and made him fight. Everyone buying the excuses that Mayweather was sick and had a cold are not boxing purists. Cotto busted him up but Mayweather was able to adjust and outwork him down the stretch. If Khan had a brain, he would bust Mayweather up too BUT up to this point, he doesn't. Manny would test Mayweather's greatness and he knows it and continues to duck the best fighter of this era. I don't care about the Losses to Bradley and Roidquez. We all know that he won at least 9 rounds against Bradley. Against Roidquez, he was out-muscled for some strange reason. Hmmmm. Dude took KO punches and barely blinked. Those punches used to hurt that guy. I wonder why they didn't in that particular fight. So, in conclusion. Manny STILL does not have a legit loss in over 10 plus years.
      Last edited by GOD-FR33; 12-09-2013, 04:51 PM. Reason: Grammer.

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        Originally posted by turnedup View Post
        See that's the problem, what you or I believe has no single factor in this. The fact remains this fight would shatter all gate, closed circuit, media coverage, viewership and buyer stats ever made...keep that in mind. The sheer size of this fight alone makes Pacquaio's value to it more than $40 million. Why do companies pay $1.5 million per second for a commercial in the superbowl? Because they are advertising to the largest audience possible, same applies to the talent within the superbowl..them players get financially taken care of for their appearance. If this was a fight that was going to do 1.5 million buys $40 million is appropriate..for a fight expected to sell upwards of 2.5 million buys...sorry it isn't appropriate. They paid Canelo over 3x times what his largest paycheck was to fight Floyd and Canelo has no history of being a real ppv draw. I have heard many quotes on what Paquaio has said and hasn't said, the only thing i've seen is him saying he's ok with testing but wanted a cut off..which still remains he would take the test. You can dictate to people who have no options, you can't dictate to people with options. If floyd ain't satisfied making $125 million for a fight he and many others think is easy work I don't know what to tell ya.
        How can 1.5 bring 40 million dollars? I'm sure cotto didn't get that. Mayweather got 25 for dela hoya. 40 was a damn good offer, especially considering manny is not putting anything towards promotions

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          Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
          "Hell, Cotto wasn't even impressive, it was just an attempted cherry pick that turned out harder than it was supposed to be."

          This is exactly what happened in that fight. Cotto had more left in the tank than he was supposed to and somewhat exposed Mayweather for the over-rated fighter he is. I said going in that he's never been in with a true LIVE dog that had legs, a great jab, who could think with him and who was defensively responsible. Cotto made him work and made him fight. Everyone buying the excuses that Mayweather was sick and had a cold are not boxing purists. Cotto busted him up but Mayweather was able to adjust and outwork him down the stretch. If Khan had a brain, he would bust Mayweather up too BUT up to this point, he doesn't. Manny would test Mayweather's greatness and he knows it and continues to duck the best fighter of this era. I don't care about the Losses to Bradley and Roidquez. We all know that he won at least 9 rounds against Bradley. Against Roidquez, he was out-muscled for some strange reason. Hmmmm. Dude took KO punches and barely blinked. Those punches used to hurt that guy. I wonder why they didn't in that particular fight. So, in conclusion. Manny STILL does not have a legit loss in over 10 plus years.
          Can you please explain what you mean by Cotto exposed Mayweather? How did he expose him, he lost the fight and I havnt heard anyone including Cotto dispute that. Floyd has been in tougher fights v Castillo, Chavez and maybe even v Corley. It isn't going to be a walk in the park every time out, this is world championship level boxing, and the important thing is he has one every time out. Get over it. This guy is a master boxer, has proved he can fight in deep, stop crying and just appreciate him while he's here. And if you don't consider the 1st Morales v PAC fight a loss then your a total clown

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            Originally posted by Ray* View Post
            The problem for Mayweather now is he doesn't have much fighters left that brings the money that he and Showtime wants to generate.
            That seems to be the problem.
            That's why I'm starting to get optimistic again we might actually get to see the fight we all want to see. If he does fight Khan next I can see it doing fewer ppv #s then the Guerrero fight, then showtime wanting to make the pac fight to recover loss money

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              It's simple.

              "Can you please explain what you mean by Cotto exposed Mayweather?"

              Notice how all those you named, happened when he wasn't his own boss? My point exactly. What Chavez gave Floyd a tough fight? He's never fought a Chavez to my knowledge. And what I mean by Cotto exposed him, is that for the first time ever, he fought another A-level fighter with something left. Cotto has legs, he's intelligent, he has a great jab, timing, and he's good at cutting off the ring. He can hit you and get out of the way before you can hit him back, which he did to Floyd a couple of times. He's also a good counter puncher. He did to Floyd what a PRIME Hoya would've done. He would've bounced a bit and used his great left jab and size against Mayweather and won a decision. Floyd can be beat and is over-rated. You can't be fooled by his record or what he says, you have to know boxing. The couple of times he fought guys who can actually beat him, he rose to the occasion but he was somewhat exposed in doing so.

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                This board is pretty interesting. I will say this though, I think Floyd has done more to sabotage the fight happening than Manny. To me it is sad to see how much a puppet Manny is considering the position of influence he occupies within Top Rank. Lets face it, Manny accounts for at least 70% of top ranks revenue so I do believe he can perhaps push a bit more. Now between Arum and Floyd, Arum perhaps plays a bigger role so I won't point fingers. But back to Floyd, here is how I see it, you can talk blood testing, boxing gloves, weight penalty etc, the only thing that matters is the bottom line, in this case, the revenue sharing. What most forgot here was that at the time of the initial negotiation, say what you want, Manny was actually the bigger star irrespective of how Floyd's retirement might have factored in. Look at it from PFP ranking or even total ppvs, Manny was actually higher than Floyd in both respect. So if you subscribe to Floyd's logic, Manny should actually be the one doing the offering at that point but we know that wasn't the case. Fast forward to today, Floyd is the bigger star, so as customary he wants to be in control, I get it. Beyond being in control, I think Floyd concentrates too much on how much his opponent is gong to make as opposed to how much he's actually getting paid and I think he sees himself in this space that nobody else should be able to occupy even the great ones. Listen folks, this fight would turn out to be a career high payday for both so again, if you make the best possible fights, the money part will materialize. Truth be told, right now in boxing, regardless of Manny's losses, it is Floyd, then Manny and no body comes within 1,000,000 feet in terms of ppvs and popularity so to me, there should be no take it or leave it offers taking place but instead there should be constructive negotiation taking place obviously with the top dog getting the bigger piece of the pie. Saying there is no PPV revenues for a fighter who will be largely responsible for the international ppv revenues as well as a chunk of domestic revenues just does not constitute good faith negotiating. As far as who will win the fight, I think Floyd has showed much more than Manny has shown lately to suggest who might win but again, it is boxing and anything can happen

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                  He's just talking ppl ****...he knows who he is fighting he's just gonna say sh it...all u pac lovers hang on his every word...more than pac himself...money makes more money and hes undefeated deal with it

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                    Originally posted by unotme View Post
                    This clown isn't #1 all he cares about is money he dont care about what fans want.
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                    This comment ^ left me speechless, what utter ******ity of a comment.
                    Yeah boxers fight and take brutal punishment to please their fans NOT for the money to take care of their family (sarcasm)

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                      LOL. So he has a boss now? I thought you don't have a boss floyd? Why does he say pac has a promoter and here he is saying he leaves it up to his team to pick the opponent? Man this dude scared of pac/.

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