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Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF View PostI was comparing his accomplishments to those of Broner, Both are high %KO's, both undefeated but Broner has belts in different divisions. the only reason you guys have a problem with Broner is because of his persona outside the ring.
compare their stats
At least Golovkin has Macklin on his resume. He clearly beat Macklin, Broner barely beat Paulie and Al Haymon was there to fix it for him. What was that score again? Did Broner look like a 13-1 favorite? Absolutely not.
Broner was the favorite in all his title fights, and Broners stiffest competition was PAULIE. That says it all for you.
Compare that to Manny Pacquiaos first 3 title fights. Ledwaba I believe was one and that speaks for itself. Manny was being fed, Broner was the favorite. How you have Broner higher than Manny is ludicrous.
Do you think Broner beats Manny? Or even Bradley for that matter? Or JMM?
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Originally posted by checkhuk44 View PostThat is pretty wild. Vitali has not fought in a year. When is the lazy time he fought a true threat. Broner does not belong. Putting up berto is wild business but it's gravy, to each their own opinion
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Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF View Postand we all have opinions about who could beat who but it hasnt happened, so i'll just stick with reality. You hate his persona but if it was someone else with the same credentials you'd be swinging from his nuts.
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Originally posted by Beercules View PostWho has Broner fought? Paulie? DeMarco? Who else? Gavin Rees!
At least Golovkin has Macklin on his resume. He clearly beat Macklin, Broner barely beat Paulie and Al Haymon was there to fix it for him. What was that score again? Did Broner look like a 13-1 favorite? Absolutely not.
Broner was the favorite in all his title fights, and Broners stiffest competition was PAULIE. That says it all for you.
Compare that to Manny Pacquiaos first 3 title fights. Ledwaba I believe was one and that speaks for itself. Manny was being fed, Broner was the favorite. How you have Broner higher than Manny is ludicrous.
Do you think Broner beats Manny? Or even Bradley for that matter? Or JMM?
Like it or not the FACT IS MANNY IS 1-3 in his last fights. YOU DONT MOVE UP P4P WITH A RECORD LIKE THAT (be lucky i threw you guys a bone, he's responsible for almost half the loses on the list alone)
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Originally posted by checkhuk44 View PostI present my top five fighters in the world. The criteria I use to appraise the top fighters in the world may differ from the usual methods that pundits use. It has been the cause of drama from time to time, but the fight freaks in this community are not the usual batch, for the most part, they don't drink the koolaid. I trust my top five will be seen as what it is, my opinion. Not fact, not gospel, not how it is. You know what mean.
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Unfied Titlist at 154. Lineal champion in 2 divisions. Richest fighter in history. Best fighter of his generation. In the drivers seat to earn warren buffet type bucks. Untold type money. Who he fights next is a source of much debate. At this point who cares dude. We will watch no matter what.
2. Mickey Garcia
The best mix of youth, technique, power in the sport. Eats his opponents alive. Pedigree, intuition, guile, TOP flight instruction from his pops and his brother. A truly special talent. The only question surrounds his toughness. I wonder. Can he handle adversity?? If so, we are looking at a pound for pound king. Don Arum has annexed the smaller divisions, so Garcias résum?is going to be sparkling by the time he hits 147. What he does there will really elevate him. Rigo ducks him. Gamboa ducks him. They are boys, but Donaire is ducking. Everyone ducks that man. He needs to build his fan base, and force these duckers into fights. Mabye 2 fighters from 126 to 147 that could beat him.
3. The Krusher
The most dangerous man in the world. Both hands, awesome wrecking machine. Arrogant, kind of a jerk. GREAT for boxing. He is the best fighter in the middleweight classes. That qualifies him for this list. He is a betting favorite right now from 168 to cruiser. I don't think anyone could last 6 rounds. Mabye ward, but he gets touched, and that will not go in this situation. Adonis can duck him, GGG can duck him. Hopkins can short change him, Ward can try. None of those men win. This chap is a force of nature. A vergence in the force. His résum?is slightly thin, but I am a right now kind of a guy. Right now, no one beats this guy. To mean, to strong, to hungry. Clubber Lang redux
4. Andre Ward
I may catch some slack for the ovb displacement of SOG. It's warranted. I am not a fan of giving inactive dudes hood credit. Ward needs to fight another fight before I move him back. He looked like he took a step back in his last fight. He was getting touched. He primarily threw his left hook, he was devoid of the infinite diversity his offensive attack usually employs. 3 years ago he destroys Rodriguez. He also talks about the last phase of his career at a young age. I don't believe he could defeat the Krusher, not right now. His résum?is sparkling, his opposition splendid. He can move up this list, if he beats kovalev
5. Sergio Martinez
The lineal middleweight champion is getting real healthy right now. He is getting is legs, his passion for the sport. His style and his résum?are without reproach. He has been on a tear since he entered the world stage years ago. The only man that could defeat FMJ returns to boxing next summer. His rabid fan base will be treated to the biggest fight of his career. Should Martinez defeat Cotto/Mayweather, Sergio would jump a spot or two on my list. His speed, counter punching, and advanced right intelligence make him STILL, one of the very best fighters on the planet.
Honorable Mention
Carl Froch
Rigo
Adonis
Manny
Wlad
Bradley
JMM
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Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF View PostBefore Broner fought Demarco alot of you guys were saying that would be his test, HE BLEW HIM OUT AND you guys "moved the goalpost"
Like it or not the FACT IS MANNY IS 1-3 in his last fights. YOU DONT MOVE UP P4P WITH A RECORD LIKE THAT (be lucky i threw you guys a bone, he's responsible for almost half the loses on the list alone)
Broner is the weakest link at 147 and he's losing that strap weather you like it or not. Broner was always the bigger guy with a size advantage. He can't do that at 147.
His shoulder roll is static. His foot work is poor. Even Floyd Senior said 'as soon as Broner fights someone with a pulse that fake shoulder roll is going out of the window'
Look up the article it's here somewhere.
Broner da future doe.
Now go fix your list
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Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF View PostP4P List
1. Floyd Mayweather (Current welterweight, junior middleweight, recognized p4p, broke PPV records defended both championship belts in the past year) 45-0.
2. W. Klitchko (current world heavyweight champion, as dominant as ever, gets KO’s) 61-3
3. A. Ward (came back from surgery to defend his belt against an undefeated #1 ranked contender, and dominated)27-0
4. V. Klitchko (World Heavyweight Championship)
5. D. Garcia (THE Junior Welterweight of the World) 27-0
6. Bradley (last three opponents Manny P, Ruslan P, JMM 3-0) Holds a Welterweight Championship) 31-0
7. Broner (3 Division champion, currently a Welterweight Championship Belt holder) 27-0
8. M. Garcia (2 Division champion, currently jr lightweight champ) 33-0
9. M. Pacquiao (the only guy on the list without a belt, still a great fighter but 1-2 in last three fights is the reason he’s so low on the list) 55-5-2
10. Berto (cause you gotta go thru him to get to the people on this list , and you have to fight under my banner and I get an option on your next fight (arum) and I charge you for towels while training (king).
NOT EVEN 10 LOSES BETWEEN ALL OF THEM!Last edited by Riley Freeman; 12-03-2013, 05:07 PM.
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