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Originally posted by sterilizerMy God i just HAD TO reply to such an idiotic comment.
Marquez vs. Pacquiao
Compubox stats:
LANDED PUNCHES
1st fight: Marquez outlanded Paccquiao (158 to 148 punches)
2nd fight: Marquez outlanded Paccquiao (172 to 157 punches)
3d fight: Pacquiao outlanded Marquez (176 to 138 punches)
ACCURACY RATIO THROWN/LANDED
1st fight: Marquez outclassed Pacquiao (29% vs. 23%)
2nd fight: Marquez outclassed Pacquiao (34% vs. 25%)
3d fight: Marquez outclassed Pacquiao (32 vs. 30%)
Conclusion#1: Marquez outclassed Pacquiao in the first two fights, both in quality and quantity. So he is not "whining" when he says he won, but he is wrong in the third one, where Pacquiao outlanded him by a lot, although the "quality", most powerful punches were landed by Marquez and that's why THE MAJORITY of experts gave the fight to Marquez.
Conclusion#2: Marquez could have actually won ALL THREE fights previous to the fourth, if the majority of judges hadn't been biased towards Pacquiao. Marquez could be 4-0, not 1-1-2. That's why he is complaining.
Marquez vs. Chris John
That so-called "loss" was a very controversial decision, which many experts even called a robbery against Marquez. Two one-point deductions for low blows that were utterly exaggerated (referee benefited John) and a wide decision for the local, in a very close fight where according to many experts JMM is the one who threw the more significant punches. I tried to find the fight stats from that bout to exhaustion, but I just couldn't find them anywhere. There's a reason for that I'm sure, which has to be related to Indonesian boxing ruling associations not wanting such stats to be published, because I'm almost 100% sure they favor JMM, probably even by a large margin. I wonder, how many other times has JMM ever been deducted points for throwing so-called "low blows"?
Marquez vs. Bradley
This is the peak of idiocy, calling that very controversial Bradley's victory a "schooling". Nothing farther from the truth.
Fight stats Marquez-Bradley
Jabs
Bradley: 82/337 = 24.33%
Marquez: 38/169 = 22.48%
Power punches
Bradley: 86/225 = 38.22%
Marquez: 115/286 = 40.20%
Totals: Jabs + Power Punches
Bradley: 168/562 = 29.89%
Marquez: 153/455 = 33.62%
The stats say it all. Bradley won in the jabbing department, while Marquez won in the power-punching department. In accuracy, Marquez won. Also, Marquez was the one pushing for the fight all night, while Bradley ws the one avoiding fighting at all costs. It's completely ****** calling such a fight a "schooling", in view of such statistics. Clearly, two judges valued more the act of jabbing and avoiding confrontation, and one judge saw it the other way around. A very close fight, where the local won. Had that same fight taken place in Mexico, with no native English speaking judges, I'm sure the winner would have been Marquez.
Marquez vs. Mayweather
Nothing much to say there. Marquez got totally outclassed. He even looked clumsy and foolish. But he was in the very worst fight-shape of his entire career: soft, slow, fat, completely out of shape (he went up two weight divisions in a short time period) and to top it off Mayweather was way above the agreed catch weight at the weigh-in and also way heavier and way more defined and better built than Marquez, on fight night. All the advantages were for Floyd on that one, but Marquez was a total idiot and accepted the fight under such uneven circumstances, so he totally deserved that embarrassing loss.
Bottom line, the Mayweather fight was THE ONLY CLEAR LOSS in Marquez's whole career. All his other losses have been under controversial decisions. He is right to complain about such biased decision, which his haters --anti-Mexican bigots in their majority-- claim to be "whining".
MEXICAN:wank::wank::wank:
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Originally posted by sterilizerMy God i just HAD TO reply to such an idiotic comment.
Marquez vs. Pacquiao
Compubox stats:
LANDED PUNCHES
1st fight: Marquez outlanded Paccquiao (158 to 148 punches)
2nd fight: Marquez outlanded Paccquiao (172 to 157 punches)
3d fight: Pacquiao outlanded Marquez (176 to 138 punches)
ACCURACY RATIO THROWN/LANDED
1st fight: Marquez outclassed Pacquiao (29% vs. 23%)
2nd fight: Marquez outclassed Pacquiao (34% vs. 25%)
3d fight: Marquez outclassed Pacquiao (32 vs. 30%)
Conclusion#1: Marquez outclassed Pacquiao in the first two fights, both in quality and quantity. So he is not "whining" when he says he won, but he is wrong in the third one, where Pacquiao outlanded him by a lot, although the "quality", most powerful punches were landed by Marquez and that's why THE MAJORITY of experts gave the fight to Marquez.
Conclusion#2: Marquez could have actually won ALL THREE fights previous to the fourth, if the majority of judges hadn't been biased towards Pacquiao. Marquez could be 4-0, not 1-1-2. That's why he is complaining.
Marquez vs. Chris John
That so-called "loss" was a very controversial decision, which many experts even called a robbery against Marquez. Two one-point deductions for low blows that were utterly exaggerated (referee benefited John) and a wide decision for the local, in a very close fight where according to many experts JMM is the one who threw the more significant punches. I tried to find the fight stats from that bout to exhaustion, but I just couldn't find them anywhere. There's a reason for that I'm sure, which has to be related to Indonesian boxing ruling associations not wanting such stats to be published, because I'm almost 100% sure they favor JMM, probably even by a large margin. I wonder, how many other times has JMM ever been deducted points for throwing so-called "low blows"?
Marquez vs. Bradley
This is the peak of idiocy, calling that very controversial Bradley's victory a "schooling". Nothing farther from the truth.
Fight stats Marquez-Bradley
Jabs
Bradley: 82/337 = 24.33%
Marquez: 38/169 = 22.48%
Power punches
Bradley: 86/225 = 38.22%
Marquez: 115/286 = 40.20%
Totals: Jabs + Power Punches
Bradley: 168/562 = 29.89%
Marquez: 153/455 = 33.62%
The stats say it all. Bradley won in the jabbing department, while Marquez won in the power-punching department. In accuracy, Marquez won. Also, Marquez was the one pushing for the fight all night, while Bradley ws the one avoiding fighting at all costs. It's completely ****** calling such a fight a "schooling", in view of such statistics. Clearly, two judges valued more the act of jabbing and avoiding confrontation, and one judge saw it the other way around. A very close fight, where the local won. Had that same fight taken place in Mexico, with no native English-speaking judges, I'm sure the winner would have been Marquez.
Marquez vs. Mayweather
Nothing much to say there. Marquez got totally outclassed. He even looked clumsy and foolish. But he was in the very worst fight-shape of his entire career: soft, slow, fat, completely out of shape (he went up two weight divisions in a short time period) and to top it off Mayweather was way above the agreed catch weight at the weigh-in and also way heavier and way more defined and better built than Marquez, on fight night. All the advantages were for Floyd on that one, but Marquez was a total idiot and accepted the fight under such uneven circumstances, so he totally deserved that embarrassing loss.
Bottom line, the Mayweather fight was THE ONLY CLEAR LOSS in Marquez's whole career. All his other losses have been under controversial decisions. He is right to complain about such biased decision, which his haters --anti-Mexican bigots in their majority-- claim to be "whining".
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