Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao Weighing 142, Much Smaller Than Rios

[Warrios]

If Rios wins this fight, Arum will probably find the nearest pier and throw himself off. If he survives, he will beg Marquez, with tears in his eyes, to fight a fifth fight against Pacquaio. In the meantime, Rios will be delegated to the Guillermo Rigondeaux/Zahir Raheem hell hole where he will be lucky to get a fight on Friday Night Fights.

lol. yeah with all his experience he wouldn't know how to promote a young mexican that just beat an older star. how much more can a 35 year old cow be milked? brandon rios is the future of boxing.

floyd ur next.

[Hawkeye_616]

His fight night weight when he fought at 130 was 145....that's not a tiny guy. He was more fight night in his last fight against JMM than Floyd was vs Canelo.... You can't have it both ways. Floyd should fight 160lbers but Manny is way too small to fight 154 lb fighters? Please just stop with the nonsense and be open to the fact that Pac isn't a 140 lb fighter anymore...

I think 5'6" Pacquiao vs. 5'11" Margarrito makes Pacquiao the tiny guy. Watch the fight....looked like David vs. Goliath. Yet he still pounded Margacheato's skull to powder near the orbital socket? Has Floyd fought anyone with a 5" height advantage? Floyd is 5'8" Canelo was one inch taller. Pac can make 140 easily if he's weighing 142 right now according the the newest TR press conference and Rios is 152. If anyone Rios, can barely make 140 and he's smaller than Margacheato. Would you like to see Floyd fight's someone 6'1" (5" taller)? Manny fought that size difference.

[WESS]

The only fights we were being critical of were Pacquiao-Clottey, Pacquiao-Margarito, Pacquiao-Mosley, Pacquiao-Marquez III, Pacquiao-Bradley, Pacquiao-Marquez IV, and Pacquiao-Rios so most of that article is completely irrelevant

I was going to tell the poor guy that his book was mostly irrelevant (like pac's career since fighting Cotto) but I found it hilarious to see all the cats reply to the post agreeing. lol

However what takes the cake is having Bob come out and say WELL EVERYONE, Pac's actually kind of small... lol Kind of ironic since Pac's been fighting non-welters at welterweight.

It's not hard to see that the circus is back in full swing with all these pac clowns running around agreeing with each other about irrelevant ****.

[WESS]

Pac didnt start getting hated on until he became a threat to Floyd. Shiet, even Floyd was a Pac fan before Pac became a threat to Floyd. Even the Mexicans praised and respected Pac despite him beating Barrera/Morales/JMM because they said he fought like a warrior

Actually, what really did it was when he ducked the largest fight in history to fight Clottey. Then refuses blood testing again with his **** fights with the washed up losers in Margarito and Mosley.

Then Pac never fought a single WW again. Yet he's still fighting at WW. How does a fighter fighting at WW not fight WW's?

The worst part is, people won't stop talking **** if he keeps fighting at WW and doesn't fight a single WW. However at least now he's finally testing so that should stop the PED hate.

Ironically all the people that **** themselves about testing years ago are now screaming bloody murder to any of the fighters refusing. So the hating probably won't stop with all the irony running ramped about testing.

[ADP02]

he fights guys that can make 140 at 147,thats not something one deserves praise for. JMM nd Tim didn't outweigh him by 20-25 lbs so please stop exaggerating.

Number of fights at WW before fighting Floyd:

- Marquez = 0
- Hatton = 1 (but previous 2 fights were at 140)
- Guerrero = 2 (but 1 of 2 has been fighting at 140 recently and the other keeps on losing.
- Ortiz = 1
- Sharmba = 1

Next? Khan? Who?

[way2strong]

who would of thought a guy like floyd could get supporters hes one of the biggest chicken chits in the history of boxing even the real ATG's have negative things to say about him his fan have to make excuses for him how pathetic ..

HES NOTHING MORE THAN A BRAND THAT ATTRACTS RICH PEOPLE LIKE A BRAND NEW PAIR OF JORDAN'S THAT EVERYONE MUST HAVE ONCE HE LOSES HE WILL WORTH CRAP AND HE KNOWS IT THATS WHY HE PICKS HIS OPPONENTS ..\

YES MANNY IS FIGHTING BRANDON RIOS BUT HES JUST LOST HIS LAST 2 FIGHTS ****** ***S

[L3TH4L]

lol. yeah with all his experience he wouldn't know how to promote a young mexican that just beat an older star. how much more can a 35 year old cow be milked? brandon rios is the future of boxing.

floyd ur next.

At first I thought you were being serious, but after reading your last comment about Floyd I realized that you were clearly joking.

[Rolaz]

Pacman fought fighters/champs, in the past who were bigger and taller and have better resume, than Rios! like Oscar Dela Hoya ang Margarito! yet he beat them!

[Souwester]

Rios is going to have a huge advantage come fight night if Pacquiao is indeed only 142. Has Pacquiao lost muscle since his last fight?

[dc3383]

//krikya360.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=607257


In my research I found out that Pacquiao is the only 3 division champion in the history of boxing that was the underdog in his first 3 title tries. You may not realize the implications of that statement but let me spell it out for you. In boxing terms that is unheard of. Manny Pacquaio was being FED. Think about this, Adrien Broner just won his 3rd title. He was of similar age to Manny for each of his titles. He was the overwhelming favorite in ALL of his title tries.

Manny fought Chatchai Sasakul who was 33-1 when Manny fought him. Manny was just 19 years old. Sasakul was the deal. So good in fact he gave Yuri Arbachakov his only career loss. Some consider Arbachakov the BEST flyweight of the 90’s. That’s how good he was. The fight between Manny and Sasakul is on youtube. You can see Manny was over his head, he was just a gun and he persevered and scored a dramatic come from behind ko.*

In his next title try he fought he fought Lehlo Ledwaba. Dude was a monster and considered to be the best fighter at 122. Manny was like a 6 to 1 underdog. He destroyed him. Manny was just 22 when he did that.

Then in his next title try he fights the 3rd best p4p fighter in the world in Marco Antonio Barerra and he beats him to a pulp. Now Manny is a 3 division champion at 24 years old and he was the underdog in all of his title tries. And he beat the best fighter in the division to win each of those titles.

Then Manny takes on Juan Manuel Marquez to unify in his very next fight. The promoters didn’t give him any stay busy show case fights…….. He gets a draw. Then he engages in his trilogy with Eric Morales. Morales was coming off of a 12 round majority decision loss in the fight of the year to Barrera. Pacquiao haters act like Morales was kod in 1 round and then fought Pacquiao. There was nothing wrong with that fight. Did I add it was at 130, Pacquiao was yet moving up again. Morales has just had big HBO fights with Marcos Maidana and Danny Garcia recently but Pac gets flack for fighting him at 130lbs 8 years ago. Unbelievable.

*He settles things with Morales, fights Barrera in a rematch and then goes for his 4th title vs an all time great in Marquez. So in 4 title tries the one time he is the favorite is against the best fighter he has faced. Next he fights David Diaz in his 5th title try a fight in which Pacquiao got criticized. But Diaz was33-1 and he had just beat Morales. It was Pacquiao’s first fight at 135. Next he gets the Oscar call.

I am going to ask you why would Oscar want to make Manny look good. Manny made himself look good by fighting the perfect fight against a man that was 3 divisions bigger and 6 inches taller. He was being fed again, he just didn’t cooperate.

Next he goes for his 6th title try against Ricky Hatton. He almost kills Hatton. So let’s keep track in 6 title tries he was the underdog 3x. He also fought the best fighter in the division 5 out of 6 times, the only time he didn’t was against David Diaz. Next he fights Miguel Cotto at a catchweight of 145lbs and destroys him. That’s his 7th title and the 6th time he fought the best guy in the division for the title. Remember Floyd was just coming out of retirement at this time.

Despite what people try to say. Oscar, Hatton and Cotto were all coming off of wins not losses. Oscar had just beat Steve Forbes, Hatton had just beat Paulie Malignaggi. In fact he stopped him in 2008 when Adrien Broner couldn’t last month. And Cotto had just beat Michael Jennings and Joshua Clottey. So up until that point only Morales was coming off of a loss and he’s the only fighter to beat Manny in that decade, go figure smart guy.

Next up we have Joshua Clottey who was coming off of a split decision loss. Some people say he beat Cotto but if those same people don’t like Pacman they say Clottey was coming off of a loss. Mike Alvarado will be fighting Ruslan Provodnikov coming off of one of those same losses. There is nothing wrong with that.

Then Pac fights Margarito at a ****** catchweight but I don’t believe it benefited him. Margarito was never more than a BIG welter to me, so they let him come in at 150 and he rehydrated up to 165. He took away Pac’s prime in that fight. Then Pac picked on a shot Shane Mosley. I have no problem admitting that. Next he fights undefeated Tim Bradley sandwiched by two Marquez fights. Now he’s fighting Brandon Rios coming off of a razor close loss in his comeback fight after being violently kod.

What favors has this man been done? Seriously. I’m telling you straight up there is no way I would let my fighters fight the kind of killers that Pacquiao has, multiple times, giving up that kind of experience,weight and height. The one guy who gave him trouble, they made him fight 4x…. He was robbed against Bradley….. He gave up so much size to Margarito that he laid in bed for 3 days AFTER the fight.I can go on and on.*

Tell me another modern fighter that has had to go through that. And I only named the BIG fights and title wins. People like to repeat lies and nonsense about this guy. But the truth is he has had it harder than any fighter in recent history. You guys talk about catchweights but not so much anymore. I wonder why. I won’t bring up Floyd because I am actually a big fan of his also. Yes guys, you can be a Pacman and Moneyman fan at the same time. But Floyd hasn’t had it nearly as rough as PAcquiao, especially coming up.

But let’s get back to catchweights. Pacquiao asked for 2 catchweights, Cotto and Margarito. Marquez asked for two also. Both times 144 against Pacquiao and Mayweather and no one speaks a word about it. Cotto who was supposedly opposed to catchweights, asked for one against Margarito. Somebody hit up Margarito’s trainer on twitter and he will tell you the deal. They settled at an asinine 153 but because Margarito was a cheater nobody cared.

Paul Williams fought Sergio Martinez at 157 and no one spoke a word about it. The great Bernard Hopkins fought Kelly Pavlik and Winky Wright at 170lbs and we don’t talk about it. Now the best fighter in the world is fighting Saul Alvarez at 152lbs but yet Manny PAcquiao is the Catchweight King. I only named recent big fights. Go figure again…. #

I am a fan of Manny’s but I am more of a TRUTH ADVOCATE. The guy gets a bad rap but no one can give me a valid reason why. What special tailor made fighters that Manny has benefited from? He has fought the for the most part the best available guys, of all colors, styles, height and weights. I’m curious to know about this special matchmaking. Before Manny and Floyd had their public feud nobody talked bad about him. All I’m saying is have your own mind. Manny Pacquiao is the most accomplished fighter of this generation and out of all of the elite fighters of the past 15 years he has had by far the roughest road up.*

Atleast say you stole this from The Breadman