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is there anyway floyd could have beaten leonard?

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    #91
    I don't see it. I don't think Leonard would destroy Floyd by any means, but I would definitely pick him to win.

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      #92
      You have to give floyd a legit shot at beating anyone at or near his fighting division weights.......that said, id have my money or srl.

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        #93
        It is a very tough fight for Floyd against a bigger guy with a lot of options which is usually how Floyd beats other guys having more options.

        Winning 6 or 7 rounds in a 12 round fight is not an impossible task, he would have to mix it up sometimes leading sometimes countering, sometimes fighting inside sometimes fighting at midrange and sometimes trying to make Leonard reach. Floyd would have to be on his game in all aspects and his defense would need to be at it's very tightest. Leonard is not a run of the mill guy that would frustrate easily Floyd would have to really go the extra mile.

        Leonard is one of the toughest match-ups you could really dig up for Floyd but still it is a fight he can win if he fights at his very best but it still would be very hard work. Leonard would have to be favored though~

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          #94
          they both can beat each other

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            #95
            Originally posted by Money Team. View Post
            they both can beat each other
            Floyd has no chance of even surviving the fight

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              #96
              Originally posted by AntonTheMeh View Post
              floyd would never fight leonard the way duran fought leonard. it would be suicide.
              Floyd always fights toe to toe just like he brought it to Canelo. Close up, and walk to him. Surely Floyd is much better than Duran, and SRL couldnt even land too many punches on Duran. Imagine what Floyd will do. And Floyd is able to use his feet instinctively and move or go flatfooted if he chooses to.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Don Duva View Post
                Our man 'Golovkin' simply demonstrating why Non-Stop Boxing is the leading force as far as comprehensive and intelligent analysis/discussion relating to the sport of boxing.








                Do you make a conscious effort to be an absolute moron or does it come natural to your sort? The above sentence that I'm quoting is about as ******, ignorant and ludicrous as anything that I've actually ever read, period.



                Don't pretend to have even have the slightest bit of understanding of what "ring i.q." actually is because you are utterly clueless.
                If you feel I am clueless, thats your opinion. Your entitled to be wrong, as long as you FEEL that your right. But I have seen FEW SRL fights where I could say he did a "masterful" job. Every single time Floyd fights, he fights guys who have completely different styles, and he himself changes his entire style in order to dominate them without getting grazed. Everytime he fights, we use the word masterpiece describe what he did. He's just soooo good. SRL did a somewhat masterful job against Duran. But he is rarely a master-tactician. He aint no Mayweather so get over it.

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                  #98
                  People are basing it off largely off Floyd dominating come forward brawlers at 147. That's basically all he has fought there. Zab had the speed of Leonard, but nothing else.

                  In saying that, imagine someone with the speed of Zab, that also has one of the greatest will to win we've seen, plus the height of Oscar, with a much better, more consistent jab, and the power of Mosley. The thing is, unlike these guys, Leonard got better as the fight weren't longer, not worse.

                  He could also adjust as Floyd adjusted. I eventually see Leonard walking Floyd down and simply out working him with offensive combinations. I think Leonard would win just like he fought Duran I. Floyd would counter well, and sometimes have Leonard missing a lot, but he would struggle to get off his own offense because that would leave him open to getting hit with one of Leonard's counter combinations.

                  Floyd would fight largely defensively, doing a very good job of it, but not have the offense necessary to beat Leonard who had the reach, height and power advantage and would use all of them well in getting off combinations that would land on a Floyd fighting off the ropes too much.

                  I don't think people really understand the huge difference and skill gap between fighting Sugar Ray Leonard and a 40 Mosley, Guerrero, Canelo, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir, or Sharmba Mitchell....looking good and adjusting to those guys is one, doing it against someone of Leonard's caliber who has significant advantages of his own is quite another.

                  I'd take Leonard in a close, but clear win in which there are multiple switches, with Leonard first surprising Floyd with his reach, height and speed, then Floyd adjusting and making Leonard miss more, but Leonard eventually ends up walking Floyd down and firing off combinations that rack up more rounds and points than Floyds single landed shots and good defense.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                    If you feel I am clueless, thats your opinion. Your entitled to be wrong, as long as you FEEL that your right. But I have seen FEW SRL fights where I could say he did a "masterful" job. Every single time Floyd fights, he fights guys who have completely different styles, and he himself changes his entire style in order to dominate them without getting grazed. Everytime he fights, we use the word masterpiece describe what he did. He's just soooo good. SRL did a somewhat masterful job against Duran. But he is rarely a master-tactician. He aint no Mayweather so get over it.
                    He really hasn't fought that many different styles of high caliber fighters. What great boxer has he fought? Who is someone with excellent speed, height, reach, that also has full fight stamina, counters, combos, jab etc?

                    He largely fights very similar fighters because that's what's around today. Come forward fighters.

                    Leonard is the guy who has truly fought the different styles and seen it all. Hearns, Duran, Hagler, Benitez. All among the greatest ever in their style and division and all completely different styles. Defensive master, slippery crafty offensive nut job, classic boxer/puncher that also happens to be incredibly tall, fast with ATG power, southpaw boxer/puncher/brawler.....it literally doesn't get any more varied. He has seen it all, while Floyd would be in completely new territory.

                    In comparison Floyd fights one style and one style only, and the different style guys he has fought are just on a very low level.

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                      Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                      Floyd always fights toe to toe just like he brought it to Canelo. Close up, and walk to him. Surely Floyd is much better than Duran, and SRL couldnt even land too many punches on Duran. Imagine what Floyd will do. And Floyd is able to use his feet instinctively and move or go flatfooted if he chooses to.
                      you cannot be serious with this post. this why i don't even bother some of you. 1, floyd isn't much better then duran. 2 you compare floyd to duran, all the while in your previous sentence implying that canelo's like leonard, because "floyd always fights toe to toe just like he brought it to canelo". I'm not gonna waste my time with that kinda ******. believe what you want to.

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