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    #21
    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View Post
    Not if you weren't making 135 anymore. How can he go up two divisions, if he was paying fines at 135 because he was over every time?
    Yes.

    If you are fighting at 135lbs. Fighting other guys at 135lbs.

    And move to WW, and fight other WWs... you are moving up two weight classes.

    If he decided to move up to 140, you would say he didn't move up in weight?



    Sounds like arguing to argue.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
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      Originally Posted by THE REED™

      If your last fight is at LW, and your next fight is at WW... you went up two divisions.

      What he may or may not have done in his next fight doesn't matter.

      Not if you weren't making 135 anymore. How can he go up two divisions, if he was paying fines at 135 because he was over every time?
      I think he paid his fine at 130 bro not 135.


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        #23
        Originally posted by THE REED™ View Post
        I'd love to watch the fight, but Maidana gasses too much for me to pick him vs Broner... Basically I think Marcos would have to get a lucky power shot in to really get to him.

        I LOVE Matthysse vs Broner though.
        Reed, the two guys who think that Broner didn't move up two weight classes, and that Maidana won't gas.

        The first guy has his math wrong, but his pride will keep him arguing with you, and second, the other picked Guerrero to beat Floyd by wide decision, lmao. Just warning you.

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          #24
          "Now it's time to go get more belts in someone else's weight class. I don't know if it will be at [welterweight], light welterweight or maybe I'll go down to lightweight. It really don't matter, we're just having fun right now. I felt good at [147]. I was strong as you can see. Whatever is the better fight for me. I don't care what weight it's at. If it's the best fight for me career, that's where we'll be at. But I was comfortable [at 147]."

          -Adrien Broner 6/23/13

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            #25
            Way too early to say if Broner would get pantsed by the elite at 140-147. While he certainly didnt look great vs Paulie and doesnt seem to have welterweight power, we have to see how he does in his next fight.

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              #26
              Al and most of the showtime guys are unbiased, HBO is the only crew that plays favorites.

              Extreme favoritism from the commentators.

              Al Bernstein even criticized on Abner Mares for hitting low who is basically the star 122 pounder for showtime so it shows they let the guys be real there and don't coach them to play favorites.

              The only guy who was playing favorites was that football announcer Gus Johnson I think he was more of a hype man he was hyping the guys up who fought on Showtime.

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                #27
                Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                I just can't see how one can gauge another fighter's punching power when his opponent's main objective is to fight backing up while avoiding exchanges and trading punches.

                If Broner doesn't have any power then why didn't Paulie just decide to stand and trade toe to toe and fight flat-footed? However, he didn't. He decided to fight a very defensive fight by constantly moving and fighting off the back foot. It's very hard to hit and hurt a moving opponent; Especially a fighter who is as economical with his punches as Adrien Broner is.
                Was paulie fighting defensively when he stood in front of Broner and threw 4-5 body shots in a row while Broner stood there looking at him? I mean at times PM was basically staring at Broners body like he had a crush on him while he was throwing and Broner didn't throw back. I scored the fight for Broner but he fought a bad fight.

                Honestly i don't mind Broner, but he has a lot of work to do to reach the level his fans have already put him at.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by THE REED™ View Post
                  Yes.

                  If you are fighting at 135lbs. Fighting other guys at 135lbs.

                  And move to WW, and fight other WWs... you are moving up two weight classes.

                  If he decided to move up to 140, you would say he didn't move up in weight?



                  Sounds like arguing to argue.
                  Size wasn't a factor in the Malignaggi fight even if Broner did technically move up two weight divisions. So in terms of assessing him as a fighter i would say the two weight jump is kind of a moot point...

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                    #29
                    you wont hear Bernstein say 'he has frozen 3 divisions in fear'


                    good breakdown

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Tom Cruise View Post
                      Size wasn't a factor in the Malignaggi fight even if Broner did technically move up two weight divisions. So in terms of assessing him as a fighter i would say the two weight jump is kind of a moot point...
                      I don't care.

                      Did he move up two weight divisions or not?

                      It doesn't matter if he was going to move up in the future, and it doesnt matter if the Paulie fight wasnt really based on weight because of the style.

                      Broner moved up two weight divisions, and nobody can say he didnt.

                      In other news, I dont really give a **** about Broner so.

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