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    #11
    Originally posted by gauze View Post
    agreed, and matthysse was never hurt
    Mathesseye must not be the beast people claim he is if he can't undeniably beat a crappy washed up Zab Judah.

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      #12
      Garcia won clearer in terms of rounds but he faded and was hurt late in the fight.

      Zab won more rounds against Matthysse but it was mostly point scoring. Lucas was working the body for the first half of the fight and then took over in the second half

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        #13
        Originally posted by Davis40 View Post
        Mathesseye must not be the beast people claim he is if he can't undeniably beat a crappy washed up Zab Judah.
        Undeniably? He clearly won that fight. Didn't Pacquiao not undeniably beat Bradley now?

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          #14
          SAME!

          Garcia impressed me with the fast start and also showed some versatility in his game by OUT-BOXING Zab the first half of that fight which NOBODY EXPECTED!


          Matthysse started off slow against Zab and was getting out-boxed early, but then really started to find Zab more and more in the 2nd half of the fight.


          But because of the knock downs, Danny no question defeated Zab. Matthysse on the other hand I thought the slow start put in his a hole that he did fight of absolutely but I thought he came up just short of winning that fight. I had it a Draw personally but I could see if some had Zab winning but a Round or 2

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            #15
            Originally posted by Davis40 View Post
            Mathesseye must not be the beast people claim he is if he can't undeniably beat a crappy washed up Zab Judah.
            garcia isn't any kind of beast. split decision over journeyman kendall holt, struggling with old morales, hurt by a judah who was 3 years older than the one matthysse fought. split decision over ashley theophane isnt very beastly either.

            none of this is relevant though, garcia is getting iced

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              #16
              Originally posted by El Angel View Post
              Undeniably? He clearly won that fight. Didn't Pacquiao not undeniably beat Bradley now?
              Well I think he did but some don't people don't think so. If Mathessye was that great why couldn't he walk through Judan like Cotto or Kostya tsyzu? And he did it when Judah was fresh. And why the hell would anyone rob Mathesseye for Zab Judah anyway? What would be the point? If anything it would have been the other way around.

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                #17
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                Garcia did much better in the first 8 to 9 rounds that he dominated than the time matthysse came on

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Davis40 View Post
                  Well I think he did but some don't people don't think so. If Mathessye was that great why couldn't he walk through Judan like Cotto or Kostya tsyzu? And he did it when Judah was fresh. And why the hell would anyone rob Mathesseye for Zab Judah anyway? What would be the point? If anything it would have been the other way around.
                  In NJ, you don't think the judges would be a LITTLE biased for Judah, over an unknown Argentine. He didn't stop Judah like Cotto and Tszyu, but he clearly won the fight. Just as clear as Garcia, which is what the TS is asking.

                  That means Judah was fresher for Matthysse than he was for Garcia, if we're using that.

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                    #19
                    Khan you fcking *****

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by El Angel View Post
                      In NJ, you don't think the judges would be a LITTLE biased for Judah, over an unknown Argentine. He didn't stop Judah like Cotto and Tszyu, but he clearly won the fight. Just as clear as Garcia, which is what the TS is asking.

                      That means Judah was fresher for Matthysse than he was for Garcia, if we're using that.
                      It c wasn't as clear come on. He bearly won any of the first 9 vs garcia if any. Vs matthysse he was winning alot of early/mid rounds

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