Comments Thread For: Loeffler: Andre Ward-Gennady Golovkin Will Take Time

[_Maxi]

Kelly Pavlik announced his retirement in January of 2013, after their fight was scrapped. Golovkin and K2 said at this time, HBO had an offer on the table, that Gennady, HBO and Ward met to discuss a fight , Golovkin agreed to fight him at 168, and that Ward had turned it down for whatever reasons.

If you're trying to make a name for yourself by mentioning me to build up your own fight, then be a man about it and tell the truth. At our meeting with HBO they asked us whether we are ready to box. You know our answers - I said yes, you said no. - Gennady Golovkin

The funny thing to me is this has literally nothing to do with Danny Jacobs. Nothing. You continue to reach for straws by using Ward vs Golovkin never materializing as justification for Jacobs turning down Golovkin as a business decision. They are in the same weight class for crying out loud. There are no business decisions it's simply called ducking.

Golovkin has literally zero obligation to move up in weight, zero. He does however have obligations to fight top middleweights. That is true for the entire boxing world. Like I said before, if Ward or DeGale challenged Jacobs at 168 and Jacobs said no, he wants to unify or that he has a mandatory with Golovkin and that's is goal, I would say 100% that's Jacobs right as a fighter and if anyone said he's ducking I'd defend him just like anyone else. But when it comes to turning down big fights, unification fights in his own weight class? Nope, gotta call it for what it is.

Man, I appreciate you and I think you're a reasonable person. Don't waste your time on these assh0les. Life will put them where they belong. Use your time and intelligence to take you further in life.

[Chollo Vista]

Man, I appreciate you and I think you're a reasonable person. Don't waste your time on these assh0les. Life will put them where they belong. Use your time and intelligence to take you further in life.

I'm doing quite well for myself, actually. Thank you.

Hey NATAS, what your friend here is saying is you need to give up and bow out gracefully while you have a chance to save face.

NATAS and Maxi's logic isn't even adding up.

Our buddy Tom Loeffler gave an exclusive interview to boxingscene where he honestly told us that GGG vs Ward isn't a smart business move. He also said the Ward fight needed at least a year or so to build.

But what NATAS and Maxi is telling us is that before Tom gave this interview, Andre Ward had already turned down the fight, Tom just forgot to mention it.

Now out of all the best most notable GGG cuckhold's, I find it very hard to believe that even they believe that. But these guys know no bounds to go through to defend that GGG cokk

[_Maxi]

I'm doing quite well for myself, actually. Thank you.

Hey NATAS, what your friend here is saying is you need to give up and bow out gracefully while you have a chance to save face.

NATAS and Maxi's logic isn't even adding up.

Our buddy Tom Loeffler gave an exclusive interview to boxingscene where he honestly told us that GGG vs Ward isn't a smart business move. He also said the Ward fight needed at least a year or so to build.

But what NATAS and Maxi is telling us is that before Tom gave this interview, Andre Ward had already turned down the fight, Tom just forgot to mention it.

Now out of all the best most notable GGG cuckhold's, I find it very hard to believe that even they believe that. But these guys know no bounds to go through to defend that GGG cokk

They are moving up or down only if it makes financial sense. What's wrong with it? Golovkin said he accepted the fight with Ward but it couldn't be made at that due to Ward's problems. I don't know the date of that meeting he mentions.

Jacobs is refusing to fight someone in his own division, which is a total different case. To make it worst he's the mandatory.

[ИATAS]

So let me understand this. You don't have an official quote from boxingscene or a more reputable site where K2 offered Ward a fight at 168, all you have is GGG saying they did and Ward said no?

Listening to this interview where Tom Loeffler laid it all on the line, does that even remotely make any sense to you??

I understand you're a GGG cuckhold, but let's be realistic.

I also showed you a video where GGG said "Ward is too much for me", but you're peddaling the idea that Ward turned GGG down before Tom Loeffler gave this interview?


If that's the case why didn't Loeffler say in this interview "We offered Jacobs a fight a few months ago, but he turned it down?"

He didn't say it because it never happend.

Ladies and Gentlemen of the court, I provide exhibit D - where the GGG cuckholds know no bounds or limits or length's they will go to to defend their cuckhold for the business decisions he's made.

Ain't no mountain high enough, ain't no valley low enough to prevent the GGG cuckhold's from defending that cokk

Why even talk to you if this is the way you're going to act talking like a childish gay kid and not even comment on my points? You want to debate a quote from Golovkin himself and ignore my entire points about how Ward has literally nothing to do with Jacobs? Fuck out of here with that bull****. As I said, you've been going on and on for days now trying to defend Jacobs' decision NOT to fight Golovkin and all you got left is reaching for straws about how Golovkin didn't move up in weight for Andre Ward.

Look man, I get it. You've been talking about how Jacobs will KO Golovkin for a couple years now so of course it's disappointing to hear him say he doesn't want the fight, I get it. No need to waste everyone's time trying to convince us Jacobs made a "smart business decision" by passing on Golovkin and fighting the legendary Sergio Mora. Yesterday it was Jacobs deserves $3-$5 million now it's about Ward lmao whatever man, keep telling yourself you're doing a good job changing the minds of everyone who completely ****ted on Jacobs on social media, even his own fans were calling him out!

[ИATAS]

Jacobs is refusing to fight someone in his own division, which is a total different case. To make it worst he's the mandatory.

These guys are embarrassing the sport. On one hand we have Golovkin mandatory to a huge star in Canelo and he drops his belt rather than fight him. On the other hand we have a guy who wants to be a star mandatory to Golovkin and he won't even attempt to enforce his mandatory position. The boxing gods will even things out eventually, watch Jacobs lose to some clown and Canelo draining himself will eventually catch up to him.

Sad thing is there are so called boxing fans that defend this kind of crap which is the very same crap that destroys the sport.

[Chollo Vista]

Why even talk to you if this is the way you're going to act talking like a childish gay kid and not even comment on my points? You want to debate a quote from Golovkin himself and ignore my entire points about how Ward has literally nothing to do with Jacobs? Fuck out of here with that bull****. As I said, you've been going on and on for days now trying to defend Jacobs' decision NOT to fight Golovkin and all you got left is reaching for straws about how Golovkin didn't move up in weight for Andre Ward.

Look man, I get it. You've been talking about how Jacobs will KO Golovkin for a couple years now so of course it's disappointing to hear him say he doesn't want the fight, I get it. No need to waste everyone's time trying to convince us Jacobs made a "smart business decision" by passing on Golovkin and fighting the legendary Sergio Mora. Yesterday it was Jacobs deserves $3-$5 million now it's about Ward lmao whatever man, keep telling yourself you're doing a good job changing the minds of everyone who completely ****ted on Jacobs on social media, even his own fans were calling him out!

I hear your points, you just don't hear anything resembling someone else making business decisions outside of GGG or Pac.

Since 2014 Jacobs has always said he wants the right money for GGG.

Jacobs trainer even said earlier this year that the plan was to have Saunders in the summer and GGG right after. BJS turned down Jacobs for whatever reason. I never said anything about $$$ being the reason so stop lying.

Anyway, Jacobs is simply saying that GGG is obviously the best in the weight class. But the $$$ isn't right. I don't understand why this is so difficult to understand.

Loeffler said Lara at 160 didn't make financial sense therefore they won't consider Lara. Jacobs is saying the $$$ isn't right. Let's wait until the negotiation details are made public before you start finger pointing.

Team GGG has publicly stated on several occasions that they've made smart business decisions. But because NATAS and Co thinks GGG is the only one that can make smart business decisions everyone else is suppose to just throw their career out the window and say fcuk it, right?

I'm still waiting on the WBA to mandate the fight. If the WBA does their job and mandates the fight, yes Jacobs has no choice but to take the fight.

But until that happens, he has every right to make smart business decisions just as GGG and the next man have made.

[Chollo Vista]

Ward has literally nothing to do with Jacobs?

This is the part you fail to grasp no matter how many times I repeat it. It's not about Ward. It's about the business decisions GGG have made with Ward, Chavez Jr, Lara, Froch, etc.



Regarding Jacobs and GGG being in the same weight class, Pac and Mayweather were in the same weight class for years. Pac turned down the biggest fight in boxing history and a purse of 40 million dollars to fight Bradley for 26 million because the "business" wasn't right. But anybody that turns down a fight against someone in their own weight class because the money isn't right, it's an automatic duck even though they made the same business decision that you previously approved for another fighter.

That's what you call arbitrary decision making and it's unjust.

Now if the WBA will hurry up and mandate the fight, we won't be having this conversation.

[ИATAS]

I hear your points, you just don't hear anything resembling someone else making business decisions outside of GGG or Pac.

You're not seriously trying to go back to your thread about Pac wanting more than $40 million for a Mayweather fight, a fight that generated like half a billion dollars?! ****ing hell man. We are talking about DANNY JACOBS. He's not a star, he's not a big name, he's not considered elite, he's not much of anything when talking about star power. He's not a bigger name than Danny Garcia , Keith Thurman and a whole lot of other fighters who have nwver made $3-$5 million in a fight.

Since 2014 Jacobs has always said he wants the right money for GGG.

Yeah and about ten other people. That means fuck all to me. We've heard this before numerous times. "I want to fight Golovkin...some day. For a ton of money". Sounds like Peter Quillin and Canelo.

Jacobs trainer even said earlier this year that the plan was to have Saunders in the summer and GGG right after. BJS turned down Jacobs for whatever reason. I never said anything about $$$ being the reason so stop lying.

You straight up called BJS a pussy for turning down Jacobs. Did you not? Would you like me to link you to your post? I guess that was a "smart business decisions" from Saunders under your logic.

Anyway, Jacobs is simply saying that GGG is obviously the best in the weight class. But the $$$ isn't right. I don't understand why this is so difficult to understand.

I understand it perfectly. It's the same reason you called BJS a pussy. Business decision. A good health choice .

Loeffler said Lara at 160 didn't make financial sense therefore they won't consider Lara. Jacobs is saying the $$$ isn't right. Let's wait until the negotiation details are made public before you start finger pointing.

Loeffler also said hes still waiting for a phone call from DeCubas jr, Lara's manager. Who gives a sh it about Lara? Is he a middleweight? Is HBO interested in buying his fights? What does that have to do with Jacobs again?

Team GGG has publicly stated on several occasions that they've made smart business decisions. But because NATAS and Co thinks GGG is the only one that can make smart business decisions everyone else is suppose to just throw their career out the window and say fcuk it, right?

Has Golovkin turned down fights from any middleweights? Has he not consistently fought top ten middleweights while going after the title holders? He's tried to fight Felix Sturm, Sergio Martinez, Dmity Pirog, Cotto, N'dam, Canelo, Quillin, Andy Lee, Jacobs and so on. He's been very consistent; always attempts to unify and if he can't then he fights the best middleweight available to him.

I'm still waiting on the WBA to mandate the fight. If the WBA does their job and mandates the fight, yes Jacobs has no choice but to take the fight.

We'll see what happens. WBA is the worst of the four so I don't expect much. I just wanted the fight to happen, thats all. I prefer it to the Eubank fight myself but it is what it is. If the WBA does mandate it, and Jacobs turns it down, I'll be curious to see your reaction .

But until that happens, he has every right to make smart business decisions just as GGG and the next man have made.

So let me ask you, is fighting Sergio Mora a smart businesses decision? Curious to know the logic behind this fight is. Will beating Mora again make Jacobs a $3-$5 million dollar fighter?

[Motorcity Cobra]

[Chollo Vista]

You're not seriously trying to go back to your thread about Pac wanting more than $40 million for a Mayweather fight,

It's the principle of fcuking business...

Let me say it again businessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbu sinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusi nessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusine ss

What don't you understand about the analogy I'm making with all these examples is businessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusiness.

Have I mentioned business?

Why can't you get it through your thick ass skull that all these fighters from some time or another have made business decisions for their careers?

GGG has made several.

Bob Arum tried to tell Mayweather how much he was worth and didn't know schit.

FMJ tried to tell Pac how much he was worth and didn't know schit.

You are not a boxing insider. You don't have the right to tell a boxer how much he feels he should get paid. And if you do, please tell me what experience you have in said field and who's boxing contract you negotiated on behalf of? You haven't and you have zero negotiating boxing experience.

You have no right to tell us why Pac was ok to make a smart business decision and GGG made a right business decision, but no one else can.

The fact that after all these hours of telling you about "business", you're literally struggling to grasp that concept.

Do you really believe I'm comparing Jacobs star power to that of Pacquiao? Are you seriously that ******ed???

I'm giving countless examples of business practices you've co-signed on since being a member of this forum, but now all of a sudden you have a problem with business.