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    #21
    Originally posted by toshmurph View Post
    I have no doubt that Memo has Marquez using TRT as its only natural the guys nearing 40 and it's not illegal if kept in check, BHops been using it for a while..

    But if you think Roids makes you hit harder you are quite frankly an idiot! This isnt baseball you dont put muscles on fists! Pacquiao has been in numerous wars its clear its gonna start having an affect, and the KO shot was a perfectly timed counter!

    Marquez never lifted or done srint work before joining up with Heredia, so naturally a guy who is in training camp doing explosive reps and sprints is going to gain muscle mass and lose more fat than he would normally when he wasn't doing those things before, would you not agree?

    And a side note on Roids, with the conditioning work that Marquez was doing his lung capacity would have been jacked, leading to great lengths in stamina and recovery! Look at Holyfield and Mosley vs De La Hoya II... This was the first fight that I've seen Marquez seem like he was gassing! Explain that??
    roids most definitely will increase your power, they increase strenght, thus if you train right(for fast twitch/explosive training) it will increase power, it will give you a better chin too, you lot really dont know sht when you spout ******ed sht like this

    the better shape you are in the better your overall, stamina, chin, power, this should come as common sense but obviously boxing fans like to think everything is born with, truely idiotic type of thinking, these S&C aren't completely clueless you know, you little internet trolls really think you know better?
    Last edited by SplitSecond; 06-25-2013, 10:33 AM.

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      #22
      JMM is probably one of the boxers who got a TRT exemption from Nevada. A lot of UFC fighters use that and get a pass you just have to keep the levels of test in check meaning you cannot go above the allowed limit.

      JMM is def on the juice, and this ain't hate because I like JMM but only a fool would act like it was just hardwork, BS, first Memo bulked him up like a buff WWE wrestler in the 3rd fight but it made JMM a bit slower he weighed like 152 in the ring more than Manny. The 4th fight he was lean and muscular they stripped the fat off him but he had the hard rock solid muscle that he never had in his life and at 39 you don't get that muscle easy his genetics don;t allow it, he reminded me of Vargas when he used juice for De La Hoya, Vargas never had that type of muscles he even said us Mexicans are not built like that before and than when he fought Oscar he was hard and muscular.

      Pacquiao was always a muscular ripped dude, its in his genetics just look at his brother Bobby, dude is muscular too.

      Its like they have those black genetics




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        #23
        Lol we get it. Only one fighter is allowed to move up in weight and gain lots of lean muscle, not lose speed and gain power.....and start knocking out bigger guys, lean against the ropes (against Cotto) to test his opponents power. Only one fighter is allowed to do this. Only one fighter can do this and refuse proper testing and its all ok.

        Everyone else is suspect even if they are passing more stringent tests. Ok we get it.

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          #24
          Why would JMM bother with TRT if he' training in Mexico? Steroids are freely available.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
            Why would JMM bother with TRT if he' training in Mexico? Steroids are freely available.
            Well because its legal in Nevada. Also a lot of these ufc fighters get a TRT exemption, but use real steroids off season before they start training camp and than taper off when they do testing.

            So if you have a TRT exemption and your test tests high you have an excuse so you don;t really get in trouble you can fight the suspension, its a way that Memo could have an alibi just in case.

            Here is Vitor Belfort before and after TRT he has a TRT exemption

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