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    #81
    Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
    I agree if none of this was agreed to before now, but we have articles saying the drug testing was agreed to a couple months ago. If Marquez agreed then, but is making a fuss about it now, that doesn't sound right.
    Has it though? Why would it suddenly be an issue now if it was agreed to months ago? It's not like he can change a contract thats already signed and done with. Not gonna happen, so it's either not even been organised and is only being looked at now, or its just mind game BS.

    If that's true, then 1) he can't change the contract anyway so it makes no difference what he wants now, because he's already agreed and signed to it and 2) yes, that's weird if true that he's actually trying to change it now.

    Unless all of this stuff is just media posing and both of them leave it up to their team to organise, which is actually much, much, much more likely then the BS people post about here, and its already done and dusted and they're just talking **** and playing games. Most top fighters today don't actually know much about what's in their contracts. That's why they have teams and management. To take care of this stuff while they train. I think most of NSB think the fighters write out the friggin contracts themselves.

    The reason I think this is a non issue is because Arum will have organised the contracts and any little things that a team wants will have been organised through Bradley and Marquez' managers a long time ago if that's when they were done. Stuff they are talking about now will have no bearing on the fight or contracts if they were done months ago, so it's just posing, or, as usual and more likely, NSB is completely misinformed and are looking into things too much thinking they know what's actually going on behind the scenes and the contracts etc haven't even been done and things are still being worked out.

    What fighters say to media 6 months before a fight and what actually takes place by management, promotion etc behind closed doors when things are being done, set up and signed are often very, very different.

    Originally posted by T18Z View Post
    Why wouldn't Marquez just agree to testing regardless, especially with the controversy of Angel being his strength and conditioning coach. He says he wants to prove he's clean, but wants an ADVANTAGE before he will do it? That's fcking dumb bro and you know it. You don't go challenging the damn champ and ask the guy to weigh 10 pounds below his usual limit, that's just pathetic.

    Why even try and defend Marquez, he's in the wrong here, if he's clean and got no problem with testing, then he should taking it REGARDLESS. Weakening Bradley in the process is so fail, Bradley is right, it's ******. Hydration clauses sometimes are even worse than catch-weights, can you imagine saying Canelo can only weigh 162 at fight night when hes weighed 172 vs trout? There'd be outrage at Mayweather 10x more than there is atm for the catchweight... use your brain.
    Yes, Canelo should absolutely have rehydration clauses and should only be able to go up to 164 or so. That'd be much better. Thats how all fights should be. I love that you're trying to argue its worse than catchweight.

    Fighters kill themselves losing the weight, not putting it back on you goddamn ****nuckle. Having to lose extra pounds over what you already struggle to lose, even if its only a couple, is what hurts fighters and ruins their bodies. Having limits on how much extra weight you can pile back on doesnt do anything close to what having to try and slew off a couple of extra pounds by running more, sweating more, throwing up, starving yourself, going without water etc etc only days before a fight does....you really think what you wrote is true, you're a ****** ****ing douche of epic proportions and your clear agenda, that has nothing to do with what's actually going on here, is sad.

    If you really think that a fighter, who may already kill himself getting to a weight, will benefit more from having to focus on not eating, not drinking, sweating, peeing, spitting out what little water he has left in his body even more than usual, or doing extra sessions of training, running blah blah than he would from making the weight easier and not having to go through all that to lose those extra hard pounds at the end right near the fight, but only has to watch how much water weight he puts on while resting, eating and drinking before the fight....I genuinely cannot express how ****ing moronic you clearly are.

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      #82
      smfh Marquez confirmed my su****ions

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        #83
        Originally posted by BennyST View Post
        Has it though? Why would it suddenly be an issue now if it was agreed to months ago? It's not like he can change a contract thats already signed and done with. Not gonna happen, so it's either not even been organised and is only being looked at now, or its just mind game BS.

        If that's true, then 1) he can't change the contract anyway so it makes no difference what he wants now, because he's already agreed and signed to it and 2) yes, that's weird if true that he's actually trying to change it now.

        Unless all of this stuff is just media posing and both of them leave it up to their team to organise, which is actually much, much, much more likely then the BS people post about here, and its already done and dusted and they're just talking **** and playing games. Most top fighters today don't actually know much about what's in their contracts. That's why they have teams and management. To take care of this stuff while they train. I think most of NSB think the fighters write out the friggin contracts themselves.

        The reason I think this is a non issue is because Arum will have organised the contracts and any little things that a team wants will have been organised through Bradley and Marquez' managers a long time ago. Stuff they are talking about now will have no bearing on the fight or contracts if they were done months ago, so it's just posing, or, as usual and more likely, NSB is completely misinformed and are looking into things too much thinking they know what's actually going on behind the scenes and the contracts etc haven't even been done and things are still being worked out.

        What fighters say to media 6 months before a fight and what actually takes place by management, promotion etc behind closed doors when things are being done, set up and signed are often very, very different.


        I don't think any of us will know. Seems Arum has squashed the drug testing altogether, if the tweet posted earlier in the thread is right.

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          #84
          Originally posted by JokerOfAces View Post
          Huge Marquez fan here and all. While I agree with most
          of what you were saying on your posts.

          I agree that there is definitely hypocrisy from plenty of
          the posters here. That is UNDENIABLE.

          However....

          I would of much rather Marquez just saying "YES! no
          problem, I'll take any tests at any damn time
          with no questions asked and that is final! I will
          beat this chump any day, any where, any time!
          Even if Jesus Christ himself flew out of the Heavens
          to train him he is not beating me come october!!!
          I don't give a hell how much this man weighs or how
          damn big he gets for this fight!!!"

          BUT...**** had to become difficult...well...
          Well yes, I agree. Him just agreeing to all of it would be great, but they are always going to do this little stuff, trying to get extra advantages etc etc. all fighters do it, all management does it, from the top to the bottom.

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            #85
            Well I wonder if Marquez fans will criticize Marquez for putting this ****** re hydration clause in play...........????

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              #86
              I smell butthurt all over this thread, maybe the Pacquiao KO is still fresh in your holes. I don't recall any of you *****ing about manny when he made Cotto come at a catchweight (for Miguel's belt) or Floydie making Alvarez come at 152 for the JMW belt. Stop the hate

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                #87
                figured the Pacquiao and Mayweather dickriders would come in here.

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                  #88
                  Defend Marques more please. You're too much of a fcking moron to realize that Marquez should take the test regardless, and trying to fight a welterwight at a hydration clause when you want his belt is ****ing ******. You also ignored the section where I said 'sometimes', how about you learn to read you illterate bafoon. The fact you are defending this ****** hydration clause BennyST is pathetic. If anything your angena is pretty clear, saying 'hurr durr' everyone does it so its ok' makes you sound so moronic.
                  Last edited by T18Z; 06-20-2013, 09:29 PM.

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                    #89
                    I don't see why everyone's upset. JMM said he would take the test and I don't think Bradley has ever weighed over 157 anyways so that shouldn't be a problem.

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                      #90
                      This is a ploy to delay the random testing for as long as possible. Rigondeaux who also worked with Memo, ended up starting VADA random testing only 6-7 weeks before fighting Donaire. Plenty of time to cycle down, IF a boxer was on PEDs. I'm no fan of Donaire, but at least he was being tested by VADA 365/24/7!!

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