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    Ok folks let me get his down in my humblest and neutral opinion as I can.

    Marquez is almost 40 year old, and he wasn't god giften in the physical department as a Bernard Hopkins or as a Floyd Mayweather. As far as I was concerned Marquez said yes to the test, but he wasn't willing to step up in to the ring with a guy who rehydrates as a Jr. Middleweight.

    I gotta bring the Floyd Canelo thing to make my point clearer, in the sep fight, there's no rehydration clause for Canelo, but the thing is that there's a catchweight, yeah, I know it's only 2 pounds but it's still a catchweight, and the deciding factor is that Floyd is one of the greatest P4P of all time, JMM is one of the best lightweight of our generation. so the standard on Floyd Mayweather is ridiculous higher than the one for JMM. I'm not defending JMM I'd love the fight to have no rehydration clause but that's the fact, and the fight with Bradley is not at catchweight, So I think if you bring the 2 things in to the scales it's respectable for both of 2 man, respect Floyd Mayweather catchweight, and respect JMM rehydratin clause.

    I have Bradley and Floyd by decision but only time will tell.

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      Originally posted by batista84 View Post
      Ok folks let me get his down in my humblest and neutral opinion as I can.

      Marquez is almost 40 year old, and he wasn't god giften in the physical department as a Bernard Hopkins or as a Floyd Mayweather. As far as I was concerned Marquez said yes to the test, but he wasn't willing to step up in to the ring with a guy who rehydrates as a Jr. Middleweight.

      I gotta bring the Floyd Canelo thing to make my point clearer, in the sep fight, there's no rehydration clause for Canelo, but the thing is that there's a catchweight, yeah, I know it's only 2 pounds but it's still a catchweight, and the deciding factor is that Floyd is one of the greatest P4P of all time, JMM is one of the best lightweight of our generation. so the standard on Floyd Mayweather is ridiculous higher than the one for JMM. I'm not defending JMM I'd love the fight to have no rehydration clause but that's the fact, and the fight with Bradley is not at catchweight, So I think if you bring the 2 things in to the scales it's respectable for both of 2 man, respect Floyd Mayweather catchweight, and respect JMM rehydratin clause.

      I have Bradley and Floyd by decision but only time will tell.
      Just a quick point he didn't say yes to vada because that's not in the contract. The contract has the commission perform "extra" tests... Which obviously Bradley is not comfortable with it, and why he is raising concern. Now marquez is obviously uncomfortable with vada, so he is raising this rehydration problem...

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        jmm can ask for whatever because bradley asked for stuff himself.

        but i don't know about rehydration clauses.

        that stuff is dangerous. more than ped or catchweight imo.

        that involves limiting how much water someone has in their body.

        if you're concerned about size ask for a catchweight, that limits how much they bulk up.

        a lot of deaths are attributed to boxers not rehydrating enough because it affects the fluids cushioning their brain or something like that.

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          Originally posted by M.O.B View Post
          You guys do know that re weigh in happens at 9 in the morning of the fight, so he will still be able to weigh in at 162 fight night if he wanted to he just cant weigh more then 157 when they do the weigh in at 9 in the morning.

          Easy, choice take the clause and rehydrate like normal anyways.
          that's an extra 15-18 hours of not taking on water or limited water.

          that's not good. catchweight will accomplish same with less health risks imo.

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            fair request, imo.

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              what some of you don't understand is there is a big difference between random testing and peeing into a cup after the fight not only does it give time to rid the body of PED traces but commision testing doesn't even check for the most widely used PED's like the one's Lance Armstrong was using, some of you are delusional wake up

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                Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                I don't agree with none of that nonsense. Marquez making that request is 100% right. If boxing rules were enacted correctly, Marquez wouldn't even have to mention this in the first place.

                Fighters today are making a mockery out of the purpose of weight divisions. If you come into a fight at 160 lbs, then that fighter shouldn't be fighting at Welterweight. Coming into the weigh-in at 147 lbs, and then throwing on a bunch of water weight til you're 165 is nonsense. Complete nonsense. It makes a mockery of the weight class, defeats the purpose, and is basically cheating more or less.

                Marquez is not wrong, he is correct. Honestly, Marquez is being generous. If he wanted to really stick to the book, he should require a 3 lb rehydration clause. Where the fighter couldn't come into the ring any higher than 150 lbs. That would be a true Welterweight fight. But nah, instead we have this circus act with weight divisions going on.
                What a load of tripe.

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                  Originally posted by anonymous2.0 View Post
                  I think Marquez has always been quid pro quo. Sure he'll do this if you do that, most of us are the same way. Maybe he doesn't want to simply cave into demand or do something for free. Maybe its the accountant in him. Regardless, at least this is coming out now instead of later or on fight night, a lot of you are acting like the fight is this weekend, there's time to figure this out.




                  If you are 10 lb over, you are fighting at jr middleweight not at welterweight. I really wish there was same day weigh ins. If you make the weight but can't fight at the weight limit, then you don't belong in that division.
                  The reason they stopped them is because people were dying or becoming seriously injured trying to make the weight on the day. FFS why don't people realise day before weigh ins are there for a reason.

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                    Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
                    its funny ppl hate floyd and manny for doing power moves like this. accept it. they all do it. every single superstar probably since leonard, if not before him, does it. this is what they do. this is boxing ppl.
                    Na bro not in this shady manner he refusing drug testing period when they already agreed on it now he telling bradly dont come in 10 pounds or I'm not taking the test very shady

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                      Originally posted by Rudiamonds View Post
                      Na bro not in this shady manner he refusing drug testing period when they already agreed on it now he telling bradly dont come in 10 pounds or I'm not taking the test very shady
                      Hes not refusing. According to arum commission doing testing so testing apparently was never in contract cause if it was then TR in alot of trouble abd i dont think arum will be out talking about it if he knew it was there.

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