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    #81
    Marquez is a coward. People are up here giving him props for not trolling a fight with mayweather, like he did pac-man. Back in the days, hen you lost that bad, as a fighter, you would wantto seek revenge.....Piss boy knows his roll.

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      #82
      Originally posted by citynation View Post
      Marquez is a coward. People are up here giving him props for not trolling a fight with mayweather, like he did pac-man. Back in the days, hen you lost that bad, as a fighter, you would wantto seek revenge.....Piss boy knows his roll.
      definition of coward; quitter, run-away, chicken, weakling, deserter....do any of these correspond with Marquez?!

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        #83
        How refreshing to hear a fighter being honest! Bare in mind most fighters be they chicken or whatever would jump at the chance to face Mayweather purely for the money, Marquez gave it a go, lost but maintained some credibility by going the distance with a bigger guy and now is honest about the fight - he knows Floyd is better than him and would win again. He is saving the fans from being short changed. The hype machine would be pumping, replay after replay of his Manny KO being shown, talk of how he is now a Real WW ect ect would sell the fight - You would buy into it and u know it!
        Then u would be left complaining what was the point, it was a mismatch.

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          #84
          Originally posted by LHRH89 View Post
          Wtf im not making this s**t up theres a video post mayweather vs guerrero where marquez is asked about a rematch with floyd and he clealry says what occured with promoter and mayweather left him bothered and does not want to deal with that and that he sees no point in the rematch. Im arguing the facts and the fact is he says that. If i were posting my opinion of what i thought of what he said then im with thoes who say he knows he was easily beat and that a rematch probably would be no different, and thats why he praises him and mentions him to be on another level than everyone else, but since the article fails to mention that statement it looks like im making it up. Theres the link.

          I'm missing something - did he say it in Spanish, because I didn't hear anything about that whatsoever......

          Originally posted by malcolm View Post
          Marquez got owned by Mayweather at the same weight he (jmm) owned Pacquiao.

          Haters, YOUR EXCUSES ARE DEAD!

          Marquez knows whats up. He got his ass kicked and dominated by Money, and you couldn't pay him in PISS to get in the ring with Mayweather again.
          LOL

          Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
          flotards still giving Floyd credit for a fight he didn't win Pathetic!
          ^^^^^^This troll, SMDH......

          Originally posted by Almondsand View Post
          This is why Marquez is my favorite boxer and P4P #2.. He keeps it 100% and honestly in my opinion the only fight he ever loss was against Mayweather the rest were robberies. Marquez is supremely intelligent and makes adjustments when necessary the only fighter in the game that does it better is Mayweather who is younger and bigger than Marquez.

          It infuriates me how this Pacquiao fans do not realize their boy been outboxed every fight and given gift decisions. No one seems to appreciate the intangibles Marquez brings to the game, his tenacity, mental fortitude, and using weird angles and timing along with distance to put on boxing clinics. He never cheated, he does some weird techniques but it's all within the law.. stop hating... the punch that put Pacquiao to sleep was a punch he landed from fight 1 and it's Pacquiao fault he was too ****** to adapt. Also Freddy Roach sucks... Nacho Berenstein is the much better trainer..
          I agree with most of what you said, but he got robbed vs. Pac......

          Originally posted by malcolm View Post
          Pistol Whip is a longtime troll with lil boxing iq, evidenced by his MMA sigs.
          Looks like he's been pistol-whipped 1 too many times......

          Originally posted by cautiousghost
          Sadly, you're argument is a double edged sword.

          Manny catchweighted Cotto at 145 after he got dominated and demoralized by a plaster fisted Margarito. , Oscar at 145 after he got beat by Floyd., beat Mosley after Floyd Dominated him and toyed with him. , and Hatton after Floyd took his undefeated confidence and TKO'd him.

          Marquez weighed the same for the Floyd fight as he did for Pac/Marquez IV which 143. Floyd came in at 146, which is 2 pounds above what they agreed upon. Pac came in at the 147 limit against Marquez.

          There isn't anyone that Manny beat worth mentioning that Floyd didn't first.

          Manny didn't have to fight, Corrales, Gatti, Judah, Hernandez, Corley, or Castillo who came in as a Welter against Floyd both times.

          Floyd beat Oscar at 154, Cotto at 154, Hatton undefeated, Mosley after he dominated Margarito, Victor Ortiz off fight of the year, and Guerrero who is the 3rd ranked Welter.

          No matter the 4 pound weight advantage he toyed with Marquez as well.

          Floyd gets penalized for being too good. When he dominates fighters that would give any other fighter a problem, its considered cherry picking.

          While Floyd was beating Corrales, Gatti, Hernandez, N'dou, Gatti, Castillo, Manfreddy, and Judah.

          Manny was losing to Morales, and fighting Serikzhan Yesh****mbetov, Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym. ( I know right, who's that?)

          Manny's mystique really began when he was supposed to be the one to beat Floyd.

          That's where it all started. But anyone who knows boxing knows there is no way that Manny would beat Floyd. He can't outbox him. He could potentially win a KO, but I believe Floyd's defense is too good for that. It'd be incredibly one sided to be honest.

          If Manny has done better than Floyd against their mutual competition then why has Every fighter who has fought them both has said that Floyd would win.

          He doesn't have one punch KO power and that is what keeps him disciplined. and why he never gets too wild and can avoid getting tagged.

          What he does better than anyone else is make his opponents gun shy. Not KO power but enough power to make his opponents respect him. Its simple human trial and error. If you do something, and the outcome is severe punishment without any reward, you dont wanna do it anymore.

          It happened to Guerrero, and Ortiz, and Oscar, and Marquez, and Mosley, and Judah, and Chico, and everyone else.

          Gatti is a prime example. Known for Brawling and having the heart of a lion, was incredibly gunshy when Floyd took it to him. He didn't even wanna swing back after a while.

          Manny is a great fighter. One of the greatest of our time. But you can run into another Pacquiao and we almost did in Donaire. THAT FAST.

          Fighters like Floyd don't come around top often.

          Fighters with Elite Defense. Elite Offense, Elite Accuracy, Elite Defense, Moderate Power, Elite Speed, Elite Elusiveness, Elite Stamina, Elite inside game, Elite Jab and Right hand, elite chin, Elite Ring Generalship, Elite CounterPunching, and Elite Adaptation. He has all that. And It's sad that so many people who should be appreciating the privilege to watch the Marvel that he is fight, waste time disrespecting and discrediting him.

          Im not disrespecting Pacquiao either. like I said he's great. I never called him out his name. He's not "wacquiao" or "nanny". He's Manny Pacquiao. But he is several tiers lower than Floyd.

          A great fighter, just not quite there yet.


          If you really think Pacquiao would beat Floyd, I just have one question.
          How would he do it? Everytime I ask someone that, they can never answer it. Can you sir?

          Floyd would counter Manny all night, right hand lead after right hand lead. The worst part is, is that Floyd is the bigger man so Manny's only hope would be to outbox him because he wouldn't be able push him around and rough him up.

          Not disrespecting you or your opinion, just stating mine. as well as some facts, which you could find anywhere living in our beautiful era of instant search engines.
          Good post, but you didn't go into the P-Will situation? Why didn't he fight him? Is it that he couldn't deal with the fact that he would be trying to counter a punch and 2-3 more would be coming after that? Floyd wanted no parts of P-Will.

          Originally posted by citynation View Post
          Marquez is a coward. People are up here giving him props for not trolling a fight with mayweather, like he did pac-man. Back in the days, hen you lost that bad, as a fighter, you would wantto seek revenge.....Piss boy knows his roll.
          No, he knows 10/10 times Floyd takes his lunch money. Just like Vernon/Shane, or Mayorga/Vernon. Some fighters just have your number. Seriously, stop it, it ain't necessary.....

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            #85
            Seriously, what a boss. It's unfortunate because I feel like the "new" Marquez would be able to give Floyd some problems.

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              #86
              Originally posted by citynation View Post
              Marquez is a coward. People are up here giving him props for not trolling a fight with mayweather, like he did pac-man. Back in the days, hen you lost that bad, as a fighter, you would wantto seek revenge.....Piss boy knows his roll.
              Sounds like another distressed pacquiao fan...these guys will never quit. Marquez accepted the defeat against mayweather the fights with pacquiao were always controversial this time he left with no doubt that chapter is closed dawg.

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                #87
                Originally posted by r__mutt View Post
                Seriously, what a boss. It's unfortunate because I feel like the "new" Marquez would be able to give Floyd some problems.
                He's clearly more of a WW now than when he fought Floyd and he has bulked up in a smarter manner, he's also hitting harder it seems so it would be a closer run thing but the speed and more importantly style issues are all still there and Juan knows it. It would be another CLEAR win for Floyd im afraid and as a Marquez fan im glad he dont want it. I can accept my boy lost to the better fighter

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                  #88
                  JMM knows who his daddy is

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by retnuocllup View Post
                    JMM knows who his daddy is
                    Yea you're right at least he's not denying it to be honest with you they're both good counterpunchers no let me correct myself Marquez is a good counterpuncher mayweather is the master.

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                      #90
                      Marquez is a man of respect. It takes a lot to admit someone is better than you (especially years after the fight). Most fighters would say what was different then...this, this, and that and how the fight would be different now.

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