Comments Thread For: Guerrero History Looms or is History Repeating Itself?

[valentino23]

Thomas writes a good article.

I have been hard on Mayweather. Gerbasi lays out Jrs resume and it sounds the greatest or does it.

Outside of the Hernandez fight we should examine Jrs Opponents:

While Jr was in his PRIME he fought Corrales who at the time was in bad bad shape mentally for this fight a perfect cherry pick for Jr, give him a hand of applause !!!!

Gatti was too washed up even though he was game but Jr was in his prime.

JMM was way too small in stature plus he was coming straight from lightweight, had the worst style to fight Jr with and for what reason did Jr CHEAT in the weight department ??????? hmmmmmm lacks the depth of heart? I think so !

Hatton had Jr reeling back on his heels but we all know the ref didn't do his job that night, he interfered constantly even to the point of rushing Hatton before he got started frustrating Hatton to bum rushing and was way to small and PROVED he was not made for WW due to previous fights. Great pick for Jr not to lose his 0.

ODH , it was his fight to lose and he did. NOT because of JR or anything he did but because he did NOT pull that trigger. Washed up, just one or two jabs per round would have won this sorry fight.

Old Mosley had Jr but the old man QUIT , there was a time he would have finished off Jr , too old can't pull the trigger.

Cotto , washed up , was much faster and more agile as a WW had Jr but gassed .

Jr has been brilliant , he over the past 8 years has cherry picked his way into glorious stardom

BUT

I don't buy into it, mainly due to the fact he ducks a threat.

Most all the writers and athletes are picking Jr to KO Guerrero, HA !!! They are mesmerized by JR.

Things missing in the past fighters like youth, stamina , gameness to find a way is found in Guerrero.

I agree that Guerrero is Jrs stiffest test. I will be supprised if Guerrero QUITS , I won't be supprised if JR QUITS.

Barring the sucker punch , cuts etc.... I see Guerrero whuppin JR early and giving Jr the option of quitting in the late rounds unless Guerrero KO's Jr early.

I see a nasty Jr using elbows to cut and close G. eyes

I wish I were able to see this fight but circumstances stand in the way.

I was smh the whole time while reading! U have an excuse for every win! Then I liked at ur profile pic and it explained it! Ur Pac tard! U do realize that pac fought all of those guys u named, after floyd, and after coming off of losses! Have some faith, not every champion is a fraud! THE FRAUD HAD ALREADY BEEN EXPOSED!!!!!!

[richardt]

Don't see it happening. The Ghost doesn't break, Floyd will probably lose the first 2 rounds.

Exactly. Floyd is not going to break Guerrero mentally....Guerrero fights with the spirit of his wife on his mind, it has made him a more determined fighter....he has faced far worse than what Floyd could do to him in 100 fights. Floyd can beat him physically, but Guerrero will fight till he cant fight anymore.

[Dr Rumack]

Even in boxing, there's way too much emphasis put on the psychology of a match-up by commentators and fans alike. I think if you've got an education or a professional background in in psychology you're in some position to make those assessments, but if you haven't then you should probably leave it to the pros.

The overwhelming majority of fights (and all sporting events) are decided by technical ability, tactics, and physical conditioning. That's what separates 95% of winners and losers.

I'm not saying psychology doesn't matter, but people obsess over it because it saves them the trouble of doing the tedious research involved in making informed decisions based on those other factors. Anyone can throw out a cliche about 'desire', or 'self-belief' and claim that one guy has the edge over the other. You can even use it to explain results after the fact. Doesn't involve any work and most people who follow sport know the cliches off by heart already.

Like most fights, the Mayweather-Guerrero fight will be decided by some combination of technical, physical, and tactical advantages. There's no need to resort to mind-reading and vague statements about self-belief.

[richardt]

DR. Rumack - True, but clearly many fighters are separated by their heart and will to win, that voice the tells Arturo Gatti to rise up off the floor, and tells other fighters to just cash in their chips and stay down.....the voice that tells a fighter when he is taking a beating to not give up (Corrales vs Castillo), tells another fighter its not worth it (Ortiz vs Maidana). These things don't require a psychologist to decipher, this behavior is pretty obvious to anyone. What doesn't work is when someone says that a fighter will collapse mentally if he has not shown to be predisposed to that morale. When a fighter is not in the game mentally, or does not have the fortitude, all the skills in the world wont carry him when the war of attrition takes its toll. >>>>>>>>

Even in boxing, there's way too much emphasis put on the psychology of a match-up by commentators and fans alike. I think if you've got an education or a professional background in in psychology you're in some position to make those assessments, but if you haven't then you should probably leave it to the pros.

The overwhelming majority of fights (and all sporting events) are decided by technical ability, tactics, and physical conditioning. That's what separates 95% of winners and losers.

I'm not saying psychology doesn't matter, but people obsess over it because it saves them the trouble of doing the tedious research involved in making informed decisions based on those other factors. Anyone can throw out a cliche about 'desire', or 'self-belief' and claim that one guy has the edge over the other. You can even use it to explain results after the fact. Doesn't involve any work and most people who follow sport know the cliches off by heart already.

Like most fights, the Mayweather-Guerrero fight will be decided by some combination of technical, physical, and tactical advantages. There's no need to resort to mind-reading and vague statements about self-belief.

[GRUSTLER]

I think Floyd will win easy, but I don't think the Ghost will make excuses. He will just say he got beat.

How much you want to bet?

[GRUSTLER]

If Floyd jr really thinks that he will always come out winner, then no need for Rematch Clause, he should go on and fight the winner of Bradley vs Marquez, or adds up weight and fight either Canelo or Martinez.

But, just the same, I won't be surprise if Guerrero wins, cos there will always be an UPSET in any Sports!

You guys on here are all the same. Always talking about Floyd is scared or cherry picking but saying his opponents will KO him or beat him in the same breath. Floyd beats Guerrero easy. Rematch clause don't mean you think you will lose but rather if you do, then be the first to get a chance to avenge it. Floyd is not underestimating anyone. His training ethic and dedication is a testament to this.

[MRCHOKEaMF]

You guys on here are all the same. Always talking about Floyd is scared or cherry picking but saying his opponents will KO him or beat him in the same breath. Floyd beats Guerrero easy. Rematch clause don't mean you think you will lose but rather if you do, then be the first to get a chance to avenge it. Floyd is not underestimating anyone. His training ethic and dedication is a testament to this.

True. Their bias clouds their common sense.

[turnedup]

We shall know in about a day and a half..

[NEELZ]

Even in boxing, there's way too much emphasis put on the psychology of a match-up by commentators and fans alike. I think if you've got an education or a professional background in in psychology you're in some position to make those assessments, but if you haven't then you should probably leave it to the pros.

The overwhelming majority of fights (and all sporting events) are decided by technical ability, tactics, and physical conditioning. That's what separates 95% of winners and losers.

I'm not saying psychology doesn't matter, but people obsess over it because it saves them the trouble of doing the tedious research involved in making informed decisions based on those other factors. Anyone can throw out a cliche about 'desire', or 'self-belief' and claim that one guy has the edge over the other. You can even use it to explain results after the fact. Doesn't involve any work and most people who follow sport know the cliches off by heart already.

Like most fights, the Mayweather-Guerrero fight will be decided by some combination of technical, physical, and tactical advantages. There's no need to resort to mind-reading and vague statements about self-belief.

People are not cyborgs and robots. You don't need any degree in psychology to know that attitude, effort and desire has a lot to do with the outcome of any endeavor. If you don't know that you are missing a simple ingredient "common sense"

[nj_evoixgsr]

I came in to see what the hype was like for this fight. Yup, I can't even think of getting excited for this fight. What a mismatch! Cong**** now you give mayweather a new number to say he is a legend for beating someone like Guerro. Not even mentioned on the p4p list. I like Guerro's back story and believe he's enough to take on fighters like Berto, Victor Ortiz, Etc. Not the upper echelon of fighters.