Martinez willing to move down 10lbs to fight Floyd, but not move up 8 to fight Ward?

[MoneyMayFan]

Money...simple answer.

[MoneyMayFan]

Answer this someone. Say floyd and ward weights were switched, you think sergio moves up to fight floyd? I say hell yeah.

[mathed]

Although I do agree with you mostly, Wards a small 6'1 and it was Dawson who challenged Ward, that's why he moved down!

During negotiations, Dawson and his team tried to get a catch weight and Ward's team said absolutely not. Dawson opened it up by saying he would move down initially but I was more making the point to the original poster that Ward has more of a history of putting people at a disadvantage than Sergio does.

Sergio said that he had to add quite a bit of muscle mass to avoid being "fat" at 160 and he is usually at or around 5% or less body fat when he fights, so he would have to essentially add another 8 pounds of muscle to make 168 which would take away a lot of his speed.

[ADP02]

Somehow why hasn't he fought at 154 since he could make it so easily for Floyd? Go a head ill wait......

It's very easy. With Floyd, Martinez is willing to go down to 154 because he would beat the #1 P4P fighter named Floyd and he would be getting a big pay day.

There is very little point in going down and sacrificing himself to make weight against the other mentioned fighters. He may do it for Cotto because he will bring in some money too but that would be a waist of a fight at this point in time.

Summary: There needs to be a very good reason to go down to 154. Floyd would be it. Or else, he might as well stay at 160 and fight Chavez for a decent payday.

[boliodogs]

Sergio is a natural 154 pounder and fought at that weight until he was 34 years old. He only went to 160 because he was given the opportunity to fight Pavlic and win the middleweight title. Ward is a big 168 pounder. If Martinez fought Ward at 168 he would probably be outweighed by about 15 pounds in the ring. I don't think Martinez is a coward or a bully. Mayweather can turn down the fight with Martinez at 150 if he does not think it's fair. So far Mayweather has shown no interest in fighting Martinez. Martinez and Ward are not big moneymakers.

[Ray Corso]

Honestly I'm getting sick of this guy! He is one of the middleweight champs GGG is the other......................sign the dotted line!!! What middleweight champ is challenging the welter champ?? Why would he step backwards to a junior title (154)???? I understand wanting to earn as much as possible but take care of business as a middleweight first!!! Ray.

[Scarcaztic]

Although I do agree with you mostly, Wards a small 6'1 and it was Dawson who challenged Ward, that's why he moved down!

And Martinez is challenging Floyd, what's the difference? He wants to meet at 154, where Floyd is the champ.

Don't bring up Canelo, and Trout, and not expect Martinez to get in on it too.

Don't be scared homie.

[MRBOOMER]

Lose and make millions or lose and make like 1 million ?

Get exposure and have a tough fight with a lil guy get your ass beat by Andre ward and completely kill the popularity you've built up ?

[The Hammer]

Coward and a Bully

Are you talking about Floyd getting fighters from smaller weight divisions to fight him at welterweight?

Like the 135 pound champ a few years ago, Juan Manuel Marquez?

Or getting the 140 pound champ Ricky Hatton to fight him in Floyd's weight division of 147?

Yes, that makes him a coward and a bully.

Floyd was always willing to take on smaller guys like the bantamweight Jesus Chavez (1-13) but he's been afraid to fight anyone who was in a bigger weight division.

[King Jaffe Joffer]

Sure there pal, what weights has Martinez fought at before? Now what WEIGHT has Ward fought at before? Ward is 6 foot 2, Martinez is 5 foot 10...Martinez has already moved up in his career.......twice.

Ward made the 175 pound champ move down.......and fight him in his own backyard. You do realize that Ward himself said that Martinez was too small.

"Coward and bully"

How about "dumb in dumber"? As in you sound pretty dumb but I can see you retorting with something even dumber.

What does Ward vs Dawson have to do with anything? We are are talking about Martinez here. I hate when people bring up other fighters to try and justify a lame point. Ward also said he would gladly fight Martinez.