Is sergio martinez an ATG?

[baCCaT]

if he dare to be one of the greats, the doors are still wide open for maravilla to do so, at this day and age if a fighter challenges those above and below his comfort zone/division his stock will def rise. put more names under his resume to make it look stellar and win them in celebrated fashion. make his name a brand not only to the avid boxing afficionados but to the general public as well. i think that is a good recipe to make an ATG.

[BafanaBafana]

Exactly. Martinez is a one time champ, with some decent wins.

Those guys you mentioned are borderline HOFers. It's arguable whether they are good enough to get in at all and in comparison, they are multiple time, multiple division champs with wins over some excellent champions. Compared to guys like Freitas, Casamayor, Castillo and Gainer, the Macklin, Chavez and Dzinziruk wins don't stack up too well.

The only real champion among all of Martinez' wins is Pavlik. The other couple were either given titles, literally, or won a paper title here as there. Just having Casamayor, Corrales and Johnston is better than all of Martinez entire combined record sadly.

If he'd been able to get going much earlier and had been this good, then it's possible he could have gotten into the HOF. But it's for the greatest fighters that have ever fought across boxings entire history. It's reserved for the true stand outs that made history as being well and truly above the rest of the field. The Duran's, Ali's, Robinsons, Leonard's, to today's best like Hopkins, Pac, Marquez, Mayweather, Jones, Toney, Holyfield, Lewis etc.

Think about what it's taken for Marquez to get into the HOF, then be considered an ATG. He's been beating champions as good and better than what Martinez has beaten for well over a decade and its only in his recent years, maybe the last five years, that people have started saying he's a HOFer and ATG.

Think about this people; Marquez had beaten more champions than Martinez, lost less fights and also become champion by 2003. That's nearly ten years ago now.

By the time he started getting talked about as a HOFer, he was a two division, three time champion with over twice as many champions beaten as Martinez.

The point being is that it takes a lot more than what he's done, a lot more, to be considered a HOFer and way, way more to be considered a proper ATG.

It took Marquez beating Barrera, along with 8 or so other champions beaten before that (Martinez has only beaten 5 champions in his entire career so far, only 5, Marquez had beaten that many literally ten years ago), and becoming a two division, three time champion to be considered a HOFer. It took him becoming a three division champion (should be four now if Bradley didn't rob Pac), the oldest ever lineal lightweight champion, another 5 or so champions after Barrera, including fighting the two best p4p fighters of the last decade, and knocking out an 8 division ATG in his prime to be considered an ATG himself.

Just think about that. Marquez beat his first champ in 1996 compared to 2009 (actually 2010 officially) for Martinez. Now think of everything that Marquez has done since 1996. That's what it takes to become an ATG with the long history in this sport.

Martinez hasn't even scratched the surface.

How could Martinez fight more lineal champions if the only lineal champion available for him to fight from 154-160 was Kelly Pavlik? Further, when you actually think about it Martinez already has 5 successful lineal defenses (Hopkins had 6). Also keep in mind that at this point, Martinez's lineal reign will more than likely outlast Hopkins' unless he retires beforehand.

[statosteve]

No way...and it's just a matter of time till he gets pacquiao"d...he drops his hands way to much...and his style is boring to watch,in and out...

[daggum]

No way...and it's just a matter of time till he gets pacquiao"d...he drops his hands way to much...and his style is boring to watch,in and out...

what's wrong with going in and out? heh...........

[statosteve]

what's wrong with going in and out? heh...........

Just boring to watch..hit and run hit and run mean while he dropping his hands taunting his opponent,his time will come when he gets stoped...

[Cinci Champ]

not even if he beats mayweather

[Cinci Champ]

i actually like the way he fights its interesting but not an atg

[Jloro]

Just boring to watch..hit and run hit and run mean while he dropping his hands taunting his opponent,his time will come when he gets stoped...

haha i think thats what boxing is. he makes it more interesting

[Skip Bayless]

no.......... he's not even a HOF

so a fictional boxer in rocky can make it into hall of fame but a dominant 160lbs champion cant?

[Fighting_Pride]

i love the guy and what he stands for but he's only made his mark in the 160 lbs. division, a division which he's had just 7 fights, including one lost. he's barely a HOF, no way he's an ATG, at least not yet