No amount of shouting or whining from floyd's folks can change the fact floyd duck margarito and a number of fighters. sorry dawg you aint fooling real boxing fans such as myself.
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The myth that Floyd ducked Margarito
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Originally posted by MR. LARRYX View PostAfter Manny Pacquiao made easy work of Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito, the howls of “Floyd ducked both of these fighters” reemerged. Many of these claims have been opinionated and have not yet seen proof of these allegations. I did write an article stating that Mayweather side stepping Margarito was a good move. And financially it was back then.
But upon my return to the article, I found facts that will support this article. Now, I know there will still be many who will contest these facts and continue with their barrage of name calling. But it’s not my job to control opinions; just give the facts and let the readers decide. But I want you to pay close attention to the quotes and who’s saying what.
After Mayweather defeated Zab Judah, he was offered 8 million to fight Antonio Margarito on August 12th 2006. Leonard Ellerbe had this to say after the Judah fight.
Floyd is not 100 percent healthy,” Ellerbe said. “He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It’s bruised, but it’s a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it”.
“We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd’s next fight, that’s the direction he will move in.” If you noticed, that was Ellerbe speaking. Not Floyd. Let’s move on.
Bob Arum, Mayweather’s promoter at the time said that Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.
Arum stated that Mayweather would have fought Margarito for the 8 million, but he wanted a guaranteed 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Arum only guaranteed him 7 million. And for those who don’t know Cotto and Hatton were at the Mayweather-Gatti fight and Cotto was ranked number 5 by the ring at the time (Proof: Listen to the commentary Jim Lampley at the end of round 5) . Cotto had just moved up to the 140 pound weight class and he didn’t make an offer to fight Mayweather after the Gatti fight.
Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn’t interested in participating in. “That’s not in the cards,” Arum said. “He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It’s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em. We’ll talk about things down the road.” Notice this part Arum was talking.
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Even though it doesn't look like he ducked Margarito, I just don't believe he was interested in the fight, what I found strange though was how Arum can offer to pay Mayweather $8M to fight Margarito but he couldn't offer to pay Mayweather $10M for a Cotto and Hatton who were more famous and who both brought more money at the time to the table.
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Originally posted by Ray* View PostEven though it doesn't look like he ducked Margarito, I just don't believe he was interested in the fight, what I found strange though was how Arum can offer to pay Mayweather $8M to fight Margarito but he couldn't offer to pay Mayweather $10M for a Cotto and Hatton who were more famous and who both brought more money at the time to the table.
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Originally posted by Frank Ducketts View PostArum just didn't think that Floyd could become a big time ppv attraction.
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Originally posted by Ray* View PostFine but Cotto and Hatton were both popular or had more following than Margarito at the time, So a Cotto fight and a Hatton fight would have brought more money to the table, basically Arum was at fault for this fight not happening too.
I agree with you totally. When you get the impression that your promoter is trying to get you beat by an unknown Mexican fighter instead of getting you and putting you in big time ppv fights, and he already had Mexican stars in his stable, then why stay with that promoter?
Marquez left Top Rank also. Nobody cared though. Marquez lost to a fine fighter in Norwood and was pushed to the back burner so that EM and MAB could stay Arum's cash cows. Marquez is an example of a man who can not be held back. The John situation was a situation people-namely Pac fans didn't understand. Marquez felt disrespected by Arum and took the John fight for peanuts. Pac fans said Marquez was scared. What fans didn't know was that Marquez had a burning desire to beat Pac.
Marquez proved his worth and Arum still wouldn't pay him his worth. Did Marquez leave Top Rank? What do you think. I'm not getting at you Ray, just making my point and it just happens to be answering your post.Last edited by Frank Ducketts; 12-25-2012, 02:50 AM.
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I glossed over the situation, leaving out details, but just wanted to make my point. Marquez is the ultimate G!
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Originally posted by Frank Ducketts View PostArum was totally at fault. Fighters fight, promoters promote, trainers train, and managers manage.
I agree with you totally. When you get the impression that your promoter is trying to get you beat by an unknown Mexican fighter instead of getting you and putting you in big time ppv fights, and he already had Mexican stars in his stable, then why stay with that promoter?
Marquez left Top Rank also. Nobody cared though. Marquez lost to a fine fighter in Norwood and was pushed to the back burner so that EM and MAB could stay Arum's cash cows. Marquez is an example of a man who can not be held back. The John situation was a situation people-namely Pac fans didn't understand. Marquez felt disrespected by Arum and took the John fight for peanuts. Pac fans said Marquez was scared. What fans didn't know was that Marquez had a burning desire to beat Pac.
Marquez proved his worth and Arum still wouldn't pay him his worth. Did Marquez leave Top Rank? What do you think. I'm not getting at you Ray, just making my point and it just happens to be answering your post.
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