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Will Andre Ward have a better career than Manny Pacquiao?

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    #21
    Originally posted by The Evil 1-2 View Post
    Lol, you really are poor at properly engaging in conversational debates. It was already apparent in the other thread we were posting in. Nonito's resume is COMPLETELY irrelevant to the premise that the thread starter laid down.
    yes i am , esp when the topic is ******ed and shouldn't even be debated..i feel it's a waste of time.

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      #22
      Originally posted by puga View Post
      yes i am , esp when the topic is ******ed and shouldn't even be debated..i feel it's a waste of time.
      OK. I really don't understand why you decided to post in the thread then...lol

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        #23
        Originally posted by puga View Post
        not more overrated than beating the #2, 3, 4 in your division in a semi tournament..as of right now , ward does'nt even have a better resume than nonito, altho it's pretty good



        to you maybe but to anyone who knows it's pretty impossible for ward to outdo pac's carreer , its makes a lot of sense.. breaking the 4 lineal titles alone takes a lifetime to accomplished , how much more with the 8 titles whether paper titles or not....
        so by this argument, Manny Pacquiao is the greatest fighter of all time

        ive heard it all now.

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          #24
          Wards biggest issue will be the lack of big named competition for him to fight. He already beat the best guys around his weight. Who else does he fight now? Guys like Pavlik?

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            #25
            Oh, and Manny's multiple weigh class titles are more than a bit watered down. Remember, back in the day there were FAR fewer weight divisions. He holds that record partially because a lot of great fighters never had as many classes available to them.

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              #26
              I think ward is already on Mannys level already even if he hasn't won titles in 8 divisions!!

              Although Juan didn't win titles in 8 division yet he just knocked manny out cold!!

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                #27
                hes far more skilled,better all around boxer but he dont have a dilusional fanbase following his everymove like plankiao did,so i think no.

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                  #28
                  I don't ever want to hear about people bragging about Manny's belts... The belts don't mean ANYTHING anymore. They have been watered down over the time when they keep making all these meaningless titles and all these belts for one weight class is just insane. People really need to learn their boxing before bragging about titles. They don't mean ANYTHING anymore. All titles do now is allow fighters to duck top competition.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by puga View Post
                    i dunno ..do you see him having titles in 8 weightclasses and 4 lineal in 4 divisions?

                    good question TS
                    A fighter doesn't need to jump 8 weight classes and win 4 Lineal's to be considered greater than Pacquaio.

                    A fighter could stay in 1 or 2 stacked divisons and clean them out and there's a possibility he could be greater than Pacquaio, for example.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Since 1985 View Post
                      Winning meaningless titles in different weight classes is over rated.
                      you would say that, Ward had the opportunity to be the LWH Champ and instead he chose to fight him at his own weight in his hometown...

                      Pacquiao traveled across the world and beat HOF's at their own weight

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