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Objectively, which of Pac's catchweights were unfair?

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    #201
    Originally posted by Giant Pinas View Post
    Exactly! If theyre all cheating you cant just single out Manny.
    oh man!!!

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      #202
      Originally posted by Fasttimes View Post
      Marquez wasn't bloated against Floyd. .
      It was noted that JMM looked rather soft against Floyd and small, even after bloating himself up.

      So Floyd likes not little 2lb advantages like Pac does, but likes 2 divisions on his opponents. He may try better himself next time and bloat Donaire up. Hes trying to set a world record for how many divisions a fighter will step up to fight him as they are desperate for a shot to beat Floyd and are willing to go kamikaze style to do it.

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        #203
        Margarito and Cotto are pretty much equal... Margarito might be a tad worse since we had no proof he could even make 147 anymore, ergo the "career welterweight" thing isn't even valid... People fill out in weight as they get older...

        If ur gonna fight for a belt, fight at the limit...

        If ur gonna break records, do it like a real man... I could break the largest compubox margin in boxing history record if I made my opponent contractually unable to use defense or throw punches... Would that make me special?

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          #204
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          It was noted that JMM looked rather soft against Floyd and small, even after bloating himself up.

          So Floyd likes not little 2lb advantages like Pac does, but likes 2 divisions on his opponents. He may try better himself next time and bloat Donaire up. Hes trying to set a world record for how many divisions a fighter will step up to fight him as they are desperate for a shot to beat Floyd and are willing to go kamikaze style to do it.
          So was Marquez bloated against Pac since he moved up THREE DIVISIONS over night?

          Stop avoiding the question.

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            #205
            Originally posted by andrew14 View Post
            Margarito= thats the max pacs can fight him 150.. anyway margs last fight is 147. Marg can make 147 that time.
            nope margarito's last fight before pacquiao was at 154. if he could make 147, he would've stayed at 147.

            he told cotto to **** off when cotto also wanted a 150 catchweight. margarito said he can't make 150.
            Last edited by John Barron; 11-27-2012, 01:05 PM.

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              #206
              Originally posted by Fasttimes View Post
              So was Marquez bloated against Pac since he moved up THREE DIVISIONS over night?

              Stop avoiding the question.
              What fight with Pac did he step up three overnight? No it has been noted JMM looks rather solid and PED like against Pac rather than soft and bloated looking against Floyd.

              Pac and JMM are the same size, its just Pac can take a harder punch than JMM and can beat bigger guys something JMM hasnt really proved. JMM wouldnt have to bloat himself to be as big as Pac anyway, no matter how you look at it.

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                #207
                Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                What fight with Pac did he step up three overnight? No it has been noted JMM looks rather solid and PED like against Pac rather than soft and bloated looking against Floyd.

                Pac and JMM are the same size, its just Pac can take a harder punch than JMM and can beat bigger guys something JMM hasnt really proved. JMM wouldnt have to bloat himself to be as big as Pac anyway, no matter how you look at it.
                In the second fight both he and Pac weighed in as 130/129 lb fighters and by fight night they weighed in as welterweights.

                That's 3 weightclasses

                So JMM was bloated too right?

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Fasttimes View Post
                  In the second fight both he and Pac weighed in as 130/129 lb fighters and by fight night they weighed in as welterweights.

                  That's 3 weightclasses

                  So JMM was bloated too right?
                  Well if they weighed on the scales 130 that isnt bloated is it. If they hydrate to 147 whats that got to do with it?

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                    #209
                    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                    Well if they weighed on the scales 130 that isnt bloated is it. If they hydrate to 147 whats that got to do with it?
                    How is gaining all that weight overnight not bloating?

                    Please tell me how Marquez bloated himself against Floyd.

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by BennyST View Post
                      Well, admittedly, they all received as much **** for it as Pac did. None of these guys was given a pass for it, and they still don't.
                      As much? Maybe on some other board you're a member of, here any Pac CW get 100 times more **** than all those put together.

                      Take Cotto Marg 2 for example. This is worse than any Pac CW easily. You seem like a historian, give me a precedent for the champ asking to defend his title at a CW. A "real" champ (this guy was rated #1 at his weight lol), not Danny Green with his IBO belt. So why are there 1000s of Pac Cotto posts for every post about this abomination? Or Martinez PWill 2, it's far worse on principle.

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