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    Sergio Martinez: What does he have to do for you to consider him an ATG?

    I was thinking of 154 Floyd fight obviously. The problem with that is even if he wins, Floyd was a former 130-135 pounder. 154 is far from Floyd's best weight.
    Considering Sergio's age, if he can effectively make 154, I will give him a lot of credit for beating Cotto or Canelo though.

    Can he become an ATG by beating Gennady and a few guys like Quillien/Pirog?
    Last edited by Jel; 11-15-2012, 09:19 PM.
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    i think his best chance of money and fame is to move down to 154, his best chance to be all time boxing great is too move up and attempt a fight against a bigger fighter... very dangerous for him i know, but a good win there settles his legacy i think. Theres not much else for him at 160

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      #3
      he needs a Marquee HOF fighter on his resume he has none at least off the top of my head he has none, I dont even think he has an elite fighter on his resume all b+ fighters.

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        #4
        sweep 160, something he won't do.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Tom Cruise View Post
          i think his best chance of money and fame is to move down to 154, his best chance to be all time boxing great is too move up and attempt a fight against a bigger fighter... very dangerous for him i know, but a good win there settles his legacy i think. Theres not much else for him at 160
          Like who? Say he beats Froch. Will you consider him an ATG?

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            #6
            Originally posted by ElBossHogg™ View Post
            he needs a Marquee HOF fighter on his resume he has none at least off the top of my head he has none, I dont even think he has an elite fighter on his resume all b+ fighters.
            he might only have b+ fighters on his resume but he definitely has elite wins, ie. the way hes dispatched with b+ fighters with so much ease... his ko in 2 rounds with Williams was sensational at the time...

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              #7
              Originally posted by Jel View Post
              Like who? Say he beats Froch. Will you consider him an ATG?
              yeah, wouldnt you?

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                #8
                He needs to fight and beat Ward to be an ATG

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                  #9
                  I think Pavlik and Paul Williams were close to elite at the time he beat them though.
                  World Class is what? Top 10
                  Elite is: champion/former champion- top 1-3
                  A case could be made that both Pavlik and Williams were 2 of the 3 best MW'S at the time Sergio beat them.

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                    #10
                    he can go 2 routes.

                    beat 2 guys: mayweather and ward.

                    or beat a whole bunch of other people: cotto, golovkin, geale, quillin, and froch.

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