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    #11
    Originally posted by Derranged View Post
    Of course it did. Its not an excuse, its what it is. Personally I am against weight jumping like that, it can ruin a fighter. Dawson might not be the same after this. Many posters have Ward's **** in their mouths.

    However, he offered to move down in weight. ****** move on his part. He should have asked Ward to move up. Not saying that Dawson would have won necessarily, but I don't think its ever a good idea to move down after fighting at a certain weight for years.
    yessir. pretty much what I think.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
      No they just love Ward too much or something. It been almost 3 years since Ward hurt anybody (not counting his head) yet he KO's Dawson? Cmon
      Bull ****..Ward hurt Froch on many occasions in their fight...

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        #13
        Dawson was drained and it clearly effected his performance I don't know how anyone can deny that. It's his own fault for taking the fight at the weight but money makes people do silly things.

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          #14
          of course it made a difference but he chose this weight, if u sign a contract whos fault is it lol!!!!!

          how can u blame pacman or ward?????

          dawson didnt looked drain to me, but dawson did do something he hadnt done in years which was dropping to 168, but i dont think it made much difference

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            #15
            dawson's performance speaks for itself...he wasn't the same. but still, ward clearly is the better fighter. i initially thought the fight would be even if they do it at 175 but after last night it's very clear ward has dawson's numbers. dawson would'nt have been dominated like that though at 175.
            Last edited by brick wall; 09-09-2012, 11:51 AM.

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              #16
              Weight was a factor in this fight. I just can't see it not being. I mean Ward did land a short sneaky left in the 3rd. But his legs were just jelly.

              I don't think the skill disparity was affected by the weight. But his punch resistance was not there at all.

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                #17
                Originally posted by DoubleMM View Post
                Look, it's not whether you believe Ward beats Dawson at any weight or not, because we will never know. But this fight out of any other fight is a prime example of what weight drain is. I'm not even going to include the DLH-PAC fight because DLH was just a zombie and ghost.

                Dawson had literally no legs or energy from round 1. I had him actually winning rounds 1 and 2 but it was plentifully obvious he was drained. His legs were slow and he had no energy to not even move his head. His balance was way off.

                I challege anyone to eat nothing for about a week but bread and water, very low calories while tranining, they will feel like **** and not be able to move.

                Props to Ward he's a great fighter, but don't kid yourself Dawson was a zombie in there.
                I am in agreement.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DoubleMM View Post
                  Look, it's not whether you believe Ward beats Dawson at any weight or not, because we will never know. But this fight out of any other fight is a prime example of what weight drain is. I'm not even going to include the DLH-PAC fight because DLH was just a zombie and ghost.

                  Dawson had literally no legs or energy from round 1. I had him actually winning rounds 1 and 2 but it was plentifully obvious he was drained. His legs were slow and he had no energy to not even move his head. His balance was way off.

                  I challege anyone to eat nothing for about a week but bread and water, very low calories while tranining, they will feel like **** and not be able to move.

                  Props to Ward he's a great fighter, but don't kid yourself Dawson was a zombie in there.
                  This is a shame..Why try to discredit Ward for an amazing job last night??Dawson was confident he could make weight,he also said he felt good and was ready..Hyped for the fight..Now he is not even making excuses yet fans want to..Damn shame..Ward deserves better then this kinda thread the day after a big victory like the one he had last night..

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                    Weight was a factor in this fight. I just can't see it not being. I mean Ward did land a short sneaky left in the 3rd. But his legs were just jelly.

                    I don't think the skill disparity was affected by the weight. But his punch resistance was not there at all.
                    I personally think Ward was able to land on Dawson,that's why his punch resistance was not there...People forget how Pascal was rocking Dawson(mind you Pascal is not nearly as skilled)and hurting him..Was that due to weight??Come on fellas,it's clear as day that Chad is not as skilled as Ward...Early in Chads career he was thought to be a lil suspect in the chin department anyway..But when ya fight old fighters who ya have more talent then you can hide it...But both times Chad fought young fresh opponents he has looked bad and lost the fight...

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                      #20
                      sure it was a factor but being hit on the button with a clean shot will change any fight its life, dawson challenged ward accepted and handled his bis lets move on

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