Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder Prepared For Whatever Comes His Way

[The Gambler1981]

Wilder threads always make me laugh~

Expecting anything out of this guy in his first 5 years in the pros or through at least 30 fights, completely missed the ball on where he was starting from.

Some prospects can be moved quick~ some prospects need to be slow rolled and some need to be held back~ Wilder would be in the last group because he was so raw, that while he had tremendous physical talent that he could beat guys on alone if pushed too quickly that will all go to waste and he will develop bad habits~.

Fights even at this point are just a goal to break up his training, his gym work is still most important.

He may never turn into anything, but rushing him assures he will never be anything, and his best attributes range and power don't really go away with age~ so I don't see the need to rush him.

[Hitman932]

Wilder threads always make me laugh~

Expecting anything out of this guy in his first 5 years in the pros or through at least 30 fights, completely missed the ball on where he was starting from.

Some prospects can be moved quick~ some prospects need to be slow rolled and some need to be held back~ Wilder would be in the last group because he was so raw, that while he had tremendous physical talent that he could beat guys on alone if pushed too quickly that will all go to waste and he will develop bad habits~.

Fights even at this point are just a goal to break up his training, his gym work is still most important.

He may never turn into anything, but rushing him assures he will never be anything, and his best attributes range and power don't really go away with age~ so I don't see the need to rush him.

The Wilder threads are so hilarious I agree.

You get the Pro-Russians who post up his 10th amatuer fight as proof positive that he sucks as a pro.

He obviously needs to be slow rolled as you put it. Most of the people who were critical of the way Chavez Jr. was brought along have to look back and eat **** because it was done perfectly. Wilder needs to be brought along at about the exact same pace. 35 pro fights before he steps up. Give or take. He still hasn't grown into his frame and much like Chavez took a few years to fill out I expect that he will someday be a solid 230 lbs.

There is no right or wrong way to bring along a prospect. Andre Ward's team was roundly criticized for bringing him along to slow and not preparing him with enough fights to be ready for a fight like Kessler.....

Bottom line is the manager/promoter has to have a plan and have to be willing to stick to it in the face of criticism. Some teams have the smarts and patience, others don't. It seems that Wilder's team knows what they are doing and have faith in their plan.

[ShoulderRoll]

Most of the people who were critical of the way Chavez Jr. was brought along have to look back and eat **** because it was done perfectly. Wilder needs to be brought along at about the exact same pace. 35 pro fights before he steps up. Give or take. He still hasn't grown into his frame and much like Chavez took a few years to fill out I expect that he will someday be a solid 230 lbs.

There is no right or wrong way to bring along a prospect. Andre Ward's team was roundly criticized for bringing him along to slow and not preparing him with enough fights to be ready for a fight like Kessler.....

Bottom line is the manager/promoter has to have a plan and have to be willing to stick to it in the face of criticism. Some teams have the smarts and patience, others don't. It seems that Wilder's team knows what they are doing and have faith in their plan.

Great points.

His team needs to help him make slow but steady progress until they feel he's ready. There's no need to rush him at all, and Chavez Jr. is a perfect example of how that strategy can be successful.

[iniduoh]

You guys are too hard on Wilder. Right now he's just a good young prospect. And he's right on schedule. When you have a good young promising prospect like Wilder, you take as much time as needed to develope him into a well rounded and complete fighter. Technically it hasn't even been 4 years since he's turned pro. He's still young so whats the rush. Give him a couple more years and he'll be ready take on all comers.

[The Gambler1981]

The Wilder threads are so hilarious I agree.

You get the Pro-Russians who post up his 10th amatuer fight as proof positive that he sucks as a pro.

He obviously needs to be slow rolled as you put it. Most of the people who were critical of the way Chavez Jr. was brought along have to look back and eat **** because it was done perfectly. Wilder needs to be brought along at about the exact same pace. 35 pro fights before he steps up. Give or take. He still hasn't grown into his frame and much like Chavez took a few years to fill out I expect that he will someday be a solid 230 lbs.

There is no right or wrong way to bring along a prospect. Andre Ward's team was roundly criticized for bringing him along to slow and not preparing him with enough fights to be ready for a fight like Kessler.....

Bottom line is the manager/promoter has to have a plan and have to be willing to stick to it in the face of criticism. Some teams have the smarts and patience, others don't. It seems that Wilder's team knows what they are doing and have faith in their plan.

Exactly, not every guy is ready to be thrown into the deep end of the pool early in their career, and I don't know how anyone could have looked at Wilder in 2008 and said yea that guy should be fighting top opposition in 2012~.

If they want to put heat on a highly regarded prospect from the 2008 team, talk about Andrade, who is much more polished and ready for prime time. Even with him I have no issue with them taking it fairly slow but at least I could understand the demand of wanting to see him step it up, to see how he will do.

I think they are taking the perfect path with Wilder, especially when you consider how young he is for a heavyweight (still only 26) and his best attributes are not things that really fade. Are people really that desperate to look right that they need to say something obvious like he will get beat by anyone that is really good currently, it really takes a keen eye to see that~

[Tmann400]

I agree with Gambler and Hitman, you guys make very good points. Also, people need realize, he was initially supposed to be fighting Price, who is 13-0, and beat Tor Hamer (Hamer beat Kevin Johnson in The Prizefighter tournament) so they are obviously stepping him up now. And, after Price pulled out, they contacted I believe 2 other undefeated fighters, according to an article posted here, but they wouldn't step up.

So, at least him and his team were looking for a solid fighter to fill his place. As stated above, Wilder is a very raw talent, that hasn't even physically matured fully yet. Remember Chavez Jr., and how he was badly struggling with the likes of Matt Vanda? He went from that, to knocking Andy Lee out. Some guys need to carefully brought along. Despite him winning an Olympic Bronze medal, he didn't have many amateur fights. Whereas someone like Ward, who had 120 amateur fights and was more matured. Wilder won an Olympic medal with very few amateur fights. The kid has talent.

[Alx.]

let's hope for a decent opponent.

[PR ESQ.]

Reserving judgement until quality opponent...

[vacon04]

Well to be fair, comparing Wilder to Chavez Jr is not really a good thing, especially since we're talking about a 180+ Chavez Jr who hasn't taken drug tests in his past two fights.

So saying that Chavez Jr is "good" because he was moved up very slowly could be actually
a big fat lie since we really don't know if that's entirely true. Same with Wilder, just because his career is moving up slowly (incredibly slowly by the way) doesn't mean that he will be good.

[The Gambler1981]

Well to be fair, comparing Wilder to Chavez Jr is not really a good thing, especially since we're talking about a 180+ Chavez Jr who hasn't taken drug tests in his past two fights.

So saying that Chavez Jr is "good" because he was moved up very slowly could be actually
a big fat lie since we really don't know if that's entirely true. Same with Wilder, just because his career is moving up slowly (incredibly slowly by the way) doesn't mean that he will be good.

Chances favor any prospect failing, so of course them taking it slow doesn't mean he will make it.

It just give him that possibility, moving him any quicker would to me diminish those already small chances of success.