How is Pac still ranked P4P #1 on BS?

[littlemac]

It's embarrassing. But guess what? It's over. Only thing left are the remnants. Like little **** they scrounge from board to board, thread to thread in search of the last few crumbs of packytardia. Hope you enjoyed the ride, d*ckriders - it's Jinkee's turn now so hop off!

I would'nt be surprised if it turned out that it was only like 3 people running all these pachugging alts

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I would'nt be surprised if it turned out that it was only like 3 people running all these pachugging alts

I like to think there are about 10 of them but maybe I'm giving them too much credit :/.

[Bullrider]

Some of you guys are in need of some serious (psychiatric) help.

There's one key to understand them. They love Floyd no matter what. Paq making him look bad infuriates them. Just remember that several months ago it was about the drug testing issue. All they talked about was peds for three whole years. When it became a non-issue, they have to justify Floyd's new excuse. They still haven't realized that it's their idol that keeps screwing them up. It's mind-boggling to see adults behave like little kids just to defend an obvious duck.

[littlemac]

I like to think there are about 10 of them but maybe I'm giving them too much credit :/.

Am afraid you are, but one can appreciate your kindness and consideration on giving others the benefit of the doubt.

[Bullrider]

Perhaps Bob has something to do it. Didn't Bob admit he protects his fighters. Didn't Bob admit he was protecting JR. from Martinez earlier. Didn't Floyd's fight with Cotto imiadiately happen after Cotto was free from Bob. Just think about it. Why does Manny need Arum? Why did Manny need more then two weak cut-off after saying he didn't want testing because he didn't want testing done on the day of the fight. When Manny was asked why wasn't two weeks cut off was enough if it would insure there would'nt be any testing on the day of the fight, Manny had no answer to that Manny "Depends on my promoter Bob Arum" Pacquiao clearly hiding behind Arum which is why Manny has no problem paying Arum good money. Manny is ******, but not that ****** to ruined his rep and president running to the hands of Floyd. Floyd would expose Manny in and out the ring, that's why Arum said Floyd fight is not good also because Floyd will be talking too much in 24/7lol....Arum and Pac team don't want it

Dood, it's a shallow reason to blame anybody but Floyd. If you claim you're the best like Floyd does, there's no reason why you can't make it happen. None, zero, nada. It just means he really doesn't want it.

Arum is not the one who came up with this drug testing excuse. Arum attempted to negotiate for the second time with then HBO exec Greenburg's supervision. What did Floyd do? He went on a long vacation; It's not Arum who came up with this zero PPV offer when the drug testing became a non-issue.

Last year, Paqciao's contract with TR expired and Paq sent Koncz to meet with Mayweahter in his gym. Arum wasn't there and the two sides talked without external interference. Floyd could have made the fight happen if he really wanted it. Paq is signed up with TR again and seemed to have given up on the fight.

Floyd will have about 2 to 3 fights left before retiring. It's up to him if he wants to add Paq in his resume. Can't imagine the backlash if he decided not to. Ball is entirely on his court. When he says, "Paq you're next" it means he knows he's the one holding up the fight. Come on, dood, there's nothing complicated about this if you just open your mind.

[littlemac]

Dood, it's a shallow reason to blame anybody but Floyd. If you claim you're the best like Floyd does, there's no reason why you can't make it happen. None, zero, nada. It just means he really doesn't want it.

Arum is not the one who came up with this drug testing excuse. Arum attempted to negotiate for the second time with then HBO exec Greenburg's supervision. What did Floyd do? He went on a long vacation; It's not Arum who came up with this zero PPV offer when the drug testing became a non-issue.

How was drug testing an excuse if Manny and his team never mentioned it was going to be a problem. Manny's team even went as far as saying "anytime,anywhere". Even claimed that Floyd ran away as soon as they accepted testing. So after showing no concern on testing, why did Manny develope a needle phobia when it was time to sign after all of Manny's demands were met? Floyd even offered to bend on his only demand on settling on giving Pac a two week cut-off to insure Manny wouldn't be tested on the day of the fight, which was the reason Manny said he didnt want testing. Well Manny ended up refusing this as well with no reason or excuse. Afterward's Floyd made it clear that he would no longer bend on testing or split. The cut off was now officially off the table. After Floyd had made that statement about no 50/50 split and no cut offs. Manny then comes back and wants 7 day cut off after first saying "Anytime ,anywhere" only too back pedal when it was time to sign. Floyd made it clear he will no longer offer Manny a even split and no cut offs before Manny made any kind of offer after turning the fight when it was time to sign.

Arum had not made any kind of official atempt to make the fight since then. Making an inquire to Greenburg is not negotiation. You can't call Apple and say you have an idea about a product and then write on your resume that you were a product consultant for Apple. It doesn't work that way. Arum is playing his lawyer card.

Last year, Paqciao's contract with TR expired and Paq sent Koncz to meet with Mayweahter in his gym. Arum wasn't there and the two sides talked without external interference. Floyd could have made the fight happen if he really wanted it. Paq is signed up with TR again and seemed to have given up on the fight.

Am sorry, but this is all speculation and an opinion!

Floyd will have about 2 to 3 fights left before retiring. It's up to him if he wants to add Paq in his resume. Can't imagine the backlash if he decided not to. Ball is entirely on his court. When he says, "Paq you're next" it means he knows he's the one holding up the fight. Come on, dood, there's nothing complicated about this if you just open your mind.

Again, this is just an opinion and not a argument!

My response in darkslateblue

[Bullrider]

Am sorry, but this is all speculation and an opinion...Again, this is just an opinion and not a argument!

Yeah, that's the point. You guys blame Arum, the majority blames Floyd. (Some still blame Paq he didn't call Floyd's bluff right away. Floyd would have been exposed early and these discussions would have not existed.) Whether you believe it or not, what's the point? Figth didn't happen. At the end of the day three years from now and beyond who's going to believe Arum prevented the figth from happening because he doens't want to see Paq lose? Who is going to believe such ****** thing when they know Paq win or lose to Floyd won't diminish his popularity?

[littlemac]

Yeah, that's the point. You guys blame Arum, the majority blames Floyd. (Some still blame Paq he didn't call Floyd's bluff right away. Floyd would have been exposed early and these discussions would have not existed.) Whether you believe it or not, what's the point? Figth didn't happen. At the end of the day three years from now and beyond who's going to believe Arum prevented the figth from happening because he doens't want to see Paq lose? Who is going to believe such ****** thing when they know Paq win or lose to Floyd won't diminish his popularity?

Your just rambling with out challenging any single argument. Lets keep it simple.

Why was testing a last minute problem for Pac when it was time to sign, especially when they had responded with "Anytime, anywhere" after hearing about OST way before going into the table? OST was the the very first thing on the contract and Pac knew this so why the last minute change of heart and needle phobia when it was time to sign?

Please answer this for me, I still can't find a reason other then Manny useing that as an excuse to try and save face. If you have another reason please inlighten me. Please try to stay in topic!!!

[Bullrider]

Your just rambling with out challenging any single argument. Lets keep it simple.

Why was testing a last minute problem for Pac when it was time to sign, especially when they had responded with "Anytime, anywhere" after hearing about OST way before going into the table? OST was the the very first thing on the contract and Pac knew this so why the last minute change of heart and needle phobia when it was time to sign?

Please answer this for me, I still can't find a reason other then Manny useing that as an excuse to try and save face. If you have another reason please inlighten me. Please try to stay in topic!!!

You keep going back to something that is no longer an issue. Why? You have nothing. You keep assuming that Paq agreeing to the test would make the fight happen. As mentioned by my previous post, Paq is to blame for not calling Floyd's bluff right away. Floyd would have come up with another excuse as exemplified with his behavior for the last three years. This is common sense. You don't have to come up with these silly arguments.

[littlemac]

You keep going back to something that is no longer an issue. Why? You have nothing. You keep assuming that Paq agreeing to the test would make the fight happen. As mentioned by my previous post, Paq is to blame for not calling Floyd's bluff right away. Floyd would have come up with another excuse as exemplified with his behavior for the last three years. This is common sense. You don't have to come up with these silly arguments.

Am not interested in hearing about your excuses as to what could of or should of.

Am not trying to be a di(k or something weak like that.

I truely want you to tell me why do you think Manny had a change of heart about testing at the last minute when it was time to sign after giving no indication before hand that it was going to be a problem from the begining. Even after mocking Floyd about testing claiming Floyd was the one who ran away after claiming they had accepted. Remember 'Anytime, anywhere". Why the last minute needle phobia? If you can't answer then I will asume you agree with me that Manny used his scared of needles to duck the fight and all this time Manny was just bluffing to want the fight, because even Manny last minute 10mil penalty bluff was called so this whole Manny wanting to fight Floyd was just a stunt to save face.