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    #101
    Originally posted by RichCCFC View Post
    Roy Jones....
    In 1993, Roy Jones was facing 22-1-0 Bernard Hopkins
    At the same time, Joe Calzaghe was facing 12-23-3 Spencer Alton

    Great match up for both showing their actual position and skill levels

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      #102
      Originally posted by UppercutDamage View Post
      In 1993, Roy Jones was facing 22-1-0 Bernard Hopkins
      At the same time, Joe Calzaghe was facing 12-23-3 Spencer Alton

      Great match up for both showing their actual position and skill levels
      sure, bring up one of the only good fighters Roy fought while Calzaghe (3 years younger) was a prospect.

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        #103
        Originally posted by RichCCFC View Post
        He beat him much easier than Ward did.

        Watched the two side by side other day, shows how good Joe really was, constant upper body and head movement with hands down in front of Bika and Bika could hardly touch him, he was also far faster back then than Ward is now.
        Weird, I remember HBO billing the Calzaghe/Bika fight as Joe's "coming out party" (well, for their network anyway, as the Lacy fight was on Showtime) and then listening to the commentary crew talk about how ****ing boring that fight was for the next 36 minutes.

        And you didn't watch them side-by-side, that's just ******ed, you may have watched them back-to-back. Even if you did watch them side-by-side(which you didn't), you couldn't pay full attention to either unless you have intermovable eyes that operate separate from one another like a snake. Which you don't.

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          #104
          Because his hardcore fans talk about him like he's an ATG and would have beaten anyone, and has some great resume. He has a solid resume, is a HOF but not an ATG, and was a great fighter. But his fans overrate him way too much in my opinion.

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            #105
            Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post

            And you didn't watch them side-by-side, that's just ******ed, you may have watched them back-to-back. Even if you did watch them side-by-side(which you didn't), you couldn't pay full attention to either unless you have intermovable eyes that operate separate from one another like a snake. Which you don't.
            LOL. Bringer is God.

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              #106
              Originally posted by johnm View Post
              LOL. Bringer is God.
              I don't know what it is about this place but people make some of the most outlandish claims I've ever read on this forum.

              "I watched the fight in slow motion with the sound off."

              "I rewatched this fight and counted every punch that landed."

              "I watched two fights side-by-side."

              Nobody in their right mind would believe this ludicrous bull****.

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                #107
                Any boxer with fans that hype him up to be superman will get hate. It comes with the territory.

                I liked watching Calzaghe fight. Yeah, at times he would get slap happy and get sloppy but he's an undefeated fighter so I can't take anything away from him.

                I don't believe he is an ATG personally but can see how some people may consider him one.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
                  lacy isnt a solid win and he didnt beat hopkins. he did prove he was a good fighter against kessler and eubank in particular.

                  the reason he gets so much critisism is he never made proper use of his talent, he never took risks which makes his false undefeated record even less significant. the way he ducked fighters and held that paper title hostage choosing not to take any real challenges reflect everything bad with the sport, its arguably bcuz of fighters like calzaghe that boxing is in teh state that its in.

                  factor in his delusional fans on top of that.
                  Calzaghe beat B-Hop imo. B-Hop did nothing in the championship rounds, He lost that fight.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
                    Because his hardcore fans talk about him like he's an ATG and would have beaten anyone, and has some great resume. He has a solid resume, is a HOF but not an ATG, and was a great fighter. But his fans overrate him way too much in my opinion.
                    This is the best post I've seen so far.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Since 1985 View Post
                      Calzaghe beat B-Hop imo. B-Hop did nothing in the championship rounds, He lost that fight.
                      No doubt, Hopkins won that fight due to having landed the only meaningful punches in the match.
                      Those girlish slaps Calzaghe missed with or picked off by Hopkin's gloves don't count for crap.

                      Had Hopkins and Joe meet 8 years prior, Calzaghe would have been KO'ed. But, of course, Frank Warren fully realized this.

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