Comments Thread For: Pacquiao vs. Marquez November Clash is Gaining Steam

[mathed]

Arum is smart if he doesnt make Pacquiao-Bradley II. He wants to make another star and for some reason he thinks Bradley can be that guy so I expect him to build Bradley to the point he is a star.

That's what I've been saying too. I thought he was trying to build Bradley as the next Mayweather and you can even see in Tim's style that he is blocking like Mayweather and doing the double jab and right to the body like Floyd.

He has the gritty attitude and motivation to push himself like Floyd does as well.

[Rocky Rode]

I'm ****ing tired of seeing this fight. It's going to be the same thing....over and over again.

[edgarg]

I think that this is a very smart business move on Top Rank's and especially Bob Arum's part. Right now, Team Bradley is in the driver's seat and holds most of the cards at the bargaining table. They will probably demand no less than a eight figure $10M payday for that rematch with Pacquiao. At this time, Bradley's stocks are just too high. Perhaps a couple of losses from now, then perhaps Top Rank would be willing to sit down and negotiate a new deal with him that is more favorable to his company and especially Team Pacquiao. This similar scenario reminds me back in 2000, when Mosley defeated De La Hoya and was promised a guaranteed purse of $10Million by Bob Arum for a rematch but it was never exercised until several losses later to Vernon Forrrest, when Shane's stock value had begun to drop. It was only then, when Arum was willing to sit down and negotiate a rematch with him; Basically offering him the same deal as the original, which was about $4Million.

I don't know where you got your information, but you should check it again. I distinctly recall (and I have the video) Mosley being asked about the return fight and saying that he'd already beaten Oscar, and was the unbeaten champion. He said, "look how much Oscar is getting, I don't agree with that".... Mosley felt he deserved much more than the $10 mill he was being offered. and he turned it down. I'm paraphrasing but can't be bothered to search the video out. I think others will have remembered the scene.

That's what he said. Mosley and Oscar were never friends; there was an intense local rivalry between them with Mosley annoyed that Oscar became so famous when he, Mosley always considered himself to be the better fighter. He was chasing for a fight with Oscar for a long time but Oscar was ignoring him, much the way Hatton ignored Junior Witter, or Calzaghe Froch. Mosley certainly resented it.

Right after their first fight, when asked about a return, Oscar just shook his head and said "no I don't think so". Mosley actually won that fight fairly comfortably, about 116-112, although the judges did their best for Oscar with a split decision.

[check hook]

Why make a Bradley rematch now when Bob can do JMM again, then Bradley, then someone else from TR.

[edgarg]

Do people talking about Pacquiao vs. Mayweather even follow what's been going on over the past few years?

The fight is not happening. Pacquiao has 3 more years on his Top Rank contract and Floyd hasn't fought anyone on the Top Rank roster in who knows how long.

We've heard shyt about temporary stadiums, investors from Singapore, Joe Jackson, deals reached to hold the fight in Dubai, cuts that won't heal in time, 60/40 splits, random drug testing, 50/50 splits, $40 million flat fees, pay per view revenues. The barriers have been endless and now, they have excuses such as Pac losing his last fight (arguably last 2 fights), Floyd's jail sentence and lack of training in jail, Floyd fighting in a new weight class, Canelo and Khan being promised opportunities, Rios, Mike Jones, Bradley and others being promised opportunities.

The shyt is endless.

Why don't you wake up. None of that is new, it's boxing.

[ChickenTikka]

I think that this is a very smart business move on Top Rank's and especially Bob Arum's part. Right now, Team Bradley is in the driver's seat and holds most of the cards at the bargaining table. They will probably demand no less than a eight figure $10M payday for that rematch with Pacquiao. At this time, Bradley's stocks are just too high. Perhaps a couple of losses from now, then perhaps Top Rank would be willing to sit down and negotiate a new deal with him that is more favorable to his company and especially Team Pacquiao. This similar scenario reminds me back in 2000, when Mosley defeated De La Hoya and was promised a guaranteed purse of $10Million by Bob Arum for a rematch but it was never exercised until several losses later to Vernon Forrrest, when Shane's stock value had begun to drop. It was only then, when Arum was willing to sit down and negotiate a rematch with him; Basically offering him the same deal as the original, which was about $4Million.

That will not be the case. The rematch clause will be a written contract. In the event of a rematch occurring there will prob be some clauses referring to how much money Bradleys side can get in that also. I'm only stipulating but there is no reason why that won't be in there and any underdog will sign up anyway

[whirlwind]

I can see from a far no matter what will happen Arum will give the win to Marquez this time. After that Pac rematch Bradley and win then well see another Pac vs Marquez 5. Regarless who will win, Pac vs Bradley 3 is next. then Pac retires or if it is true Pac still has 3 years contract with Arum. Arum will feed Pac once again to another young fighter under his promotion ala Bradley vs Pac 1 style. Then ww will see another milking rematches once again.

[Dat]

And the Puppet Master strikes again.n

Bloody hell, Manny should just leave Arum and proceed to fight Floyd.

[p4p-champ]

Oldman Arum still in the process of building that new stadium in Vagas...Mayweather Pacquiao 2014.




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[tlaloc]

Marquez should get more money this time since he already beat Pacquiao 3x and Pac just lost to Bradley.