What should the P4P Rankings look like

[EdMon917]

Mayweather
Martinez
Ward
Donaire
Pacquiao
Dawson
Marquez
V. Klitschko
Viloria
W. Klitschko

[ronnie_N.]

1. vacant
2. floyd & manny
3. ward
4. marquez
5. donaire
6. martinez
7. w. klits
8. froch
9. bradley
10. v. klits

[Frogs!]

c'mon let's be fair here.

you believe jmm won the 3rd fight so you rank him above pac?

fine, that's completely understandable.

but you have to afford pac the same courtesy by ranking him above bradley.

having both jmm and bradley above pac is not being objective, imo.

[slackblick]

sorry double post...

[slackblick]

anyone who has pac #1 is a tard......how the hell can you lose you last fight, look like crap in one and get totally exposed/outboxed/schooled against a 40 year old sfw and still be #1?

[Optimistic]

c'mon let's be fair here.

you believe jmm won the 3rd fight so you rank him above pac?

fine, that's completely understandable.

but you have to afford pac the same courtesy by ranking him above bradley.

having both jmm and bradley above pac is not being objective, imo.

Yeah, good point, man. Just edited mine. Had Bradley over Pac.

Didnt really think my list through too much when I first posted it, admittedly.

[Brother Jay]

1. Mayweather

If Pac was performing better in his fights I would actually give him co-#1 or 2, but the problem is he just hasn't looked that great in a long time...

Even if he did look good, how could Pacquiao possibly be at #2 when aside from JMM and Bradley, none of his competition has been ranked in the top 3 since 2008?

So if Pacquiao beat Zab Judah at this point and knocked him out in the first round, would that allow Pacquiao to move up on any lists?

Beating 5th ranked fighter is not conducive for upward mobility on any lists.

Manny has been fighting 5th ranked fighters since DLH. That's 2008.

The argument for Pacquiao to be in the top 3 or 4 would imply that he's beaten a boxer who was in the top 3 or 4.

That's untrue since 2008 .. and even then Manny didn't really beat JMM. It was another controversial call that even non-Marquez fans were protesting.

Tell the forum a top 3 fighter that Pacquiao decisively defeated since 2008 and then we can talk.

[Pac_tard]

Andre Ward for me, I think his recent domination at SMW is more impressive than Mayweather's and Pac's.
IDK WTF Martinez s doing at number 3, the only good fighter he beat in his career is Pavlik and Williams, yes he is a good fighter, but so overrated.

[techliam]

I think Ward is #1 - my opinion. He's almost untouchable... and from that I think Froch deserves a place in the top 10 list.

I really don't see how anyone can rank Bradley over Pacqiuao.. you can't justify that in any way whatsoever. Bradley was comprehensively beaten by Pac, Pac starting from a much smaller weight class in his career... when you start to base your justification based off a very bad decision, you need to take a step back and rethink. I'm neither a Pacqiuao or a Mayweather fan, if thats what someone was planning to "attack" back with. Just my take

[check hook]

Even though Bradley officially won i don't think it's acceptable to have him above MP on any P4P list. I'm fine with JMM being above Manny, but def not Bradley. That's just not justifiable imo.

1. FMJ


Not sure how the rest should look, but bottom line is that Floyd's opposition of late has been better and he's looked better against them. As for the common opponents argument, it matters WHEN not HOW. Irregardless he looked and performed better against Mosley than Pac, and although he didn't KO hatton in 2, he still KO'd him impressively and that one evens out because he beat an undefeated Hatton. Oscar isn't even worth talking about at all. In that regard Floyd was more impressive purely on account of WHEN!!!!!